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<blockquote data-quote="Box Ox" data-source="post: 3997423" data-attributes="member: 48469"><p>This is <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ing horrifying stuff. Hope indictments land on everyone responsible for this <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> at Boeing. </p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-crash-exclusive/exclusive-cockpit-voice-recorder-of-doomed-lion-air-jet-depicts-pilots-frantic-search-for-fix-sources-idUSKCN1R10FB" target="_blank">Exclusive: Lion Air pilots scoured handbook in minutes before crash - sources | Reuters</a></p><p></p><p>"Just two minutes into the flight, the first officer reported a “flight control problem” to air traffic control and said the pilots intended to maintain an altitude of 5,000 feet, the November report said.</p><p></p><p>The captain asked the first officer to check the quick reference handbook, which contains checklists for abnormal events, the first source said.</p><p></p><p>For the next nine minutes, the jet warned pilots it was in a stall and pushed the nose down in response, the report showed. A stall is when the airflow over a plane’s wings is too weak to generate lift and keep it flying.</p><p></p><p>The captain fought to climb, but the computer, still incorrectly sensing a stall, continued to push the nose down using the plane’s trim system. Normally, trim adjusts an aircraft’s control surfaces to ensure it flies straight and level.</p><p></p><p>The pilots of JT610 remained calm for most of the flight, the three sources said. Near the end, the captain asked the first officer to fly while he checked the manual for a solution.</p><p></p><p>About one minute before the plane disappeared from radar, the captain asked air traffic control to clear other traffic below 3,000 feet and requested an altitude of “five thou”, or 5,000 feet, which was approved, the preliminary report said.</p><p></p><p>As the 31-year-old captain tried in vain to find the right procedure in the handbook, the 41-year-old first officer was unable to control the plane, two of the sources said.</p><p></p><p>The flight data recorder shows the final control column inputs from the first officer were weaker than the ones made earlier by the captain.</p><p></p><p>“It is like a test where there are 100 questions and when the time is up you have only answered 75,” the third source said. “So you panic. It is a time-out condition.”</p><p></p><p>The Indian-born captain was silent at the end, all three sources said, while the Indonesian first officer said “Allahu Akbar”, or “God is greatest”, a common Arabic phrase in the majority-Muslim country that can be used to express excitement, shock, praise or distress.</p><p></p><p>The plane then hit the water, killing everyone on board."</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/20/asia/lion-air-third-pilot-intl/index.html" target="_blank">Boeing 737 Max 8: Extra pilot averted disaster on previous flight - report - CNN</a></p><p></p><p>"The system pulled the plane's nose down more than two dozen times"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Box Ox, post: 3997423, member: 48469"] This is :censored:ing horrifying stuff. Hope indictments land on everyone responsible for this :censored: at Boeing. [URL="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-crash-exclusive/exclusive-cockpit-voice-recorder-of-doomed-lion-air-jet-depicts-pilots-frantic-search-for-fix-sources-idUSKCN1R10FB"]Exclusive: Lion Air pilots scoured handbook in minutes before crash - sources | Reuters[/URL] "Just two minutes into the flight, the first officer reported a “flight control problem” to air traffic control and said the pilots intended to maintain an altitude of 5,000 feet, the November report said. The captain asked the first officer to check the quick reference handbook, which contains checklists for abnormal events, the first source said. For the next nine minutes, the jet warned pilots it was in a stall and pushed the nose down in response, the report showed. A stall is when the airflow over a plane’s wings is too weak to generate lift and keep it flying. The captain fought to climb, but the computer, still incorrectly sensing a stall, continued to push the nose down using the plane’s trim system. Normally, trim adjusts an aircraft’s control surfaces to ensure it flies straight and level. The pilots of JT610 remained calm for most of the flight, the three sources said. Near the end, the captain asked the first officer to fly while he checked the manual for a solution. About one minute before the plane disappeared from radar, the captain asked air traffic control to clear other traffic below 3,000 feet and requested an altitude of “five thou”, or 5,000 feet, which was approved, the preliminary report said. As the 31-year-old captain tried in vain to find the right procedure in the handbook, the 41-year-old first officer was unable to control the plane, two of the sources said. The flight data recorder shows the final control column inputs from the first officer were weaker than the ones made earlier by the captain. “It is like a test where there are 100 questions and when the time is up you have only answered 75,” the third source said. “So you panic. It is a time-out condition.” The Indian-born captain was silent at the end, all three sources said, while the Indonesian first officer said “Allahu Akbar”, or “God is greatest”, a common Arabic phrase in the majority-Muslim country that can be used to express excitement, shock, praise or distress. The plane then hit the water, killing everyone on board." [URL="https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/20/asia/lion-air-third-pilot-intl/index.html"]Boeing 737 Max 8: Extra pilot averted disaster on previous flight - report - CNN[/URL] "The system pulled the plane's nose down more than two dozen times" [/QUOTE]
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