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<blockquote data-quote="Packmule" data-source="post: 2256479" data-attributes="member: 33558">In the game is right about contract date. 2018, not 2017. Got that mixed up with something else. As for Carey, got off with a lifetime ban from union involvement was what the last news I heard said.He is also technically right that Taft Hartley was threatened, but not invoked. What&#039;s the difference? Point was their was a lot of illegal money being passed around between Teamster&#039;s and the DNC. It&#039;s not hard to connect the dots.As for strike authorization issues, I&#039;m going off of what our business agent was telling us. And to answer Overpaid&#039;s question, no, we did not get to see the company&#039;s offer until after we were already on strike. And only then because management brought it out to us on the strike line.But it&#039;s all history. We can with learn from it or be destined to repeat it. My suggestion is under no circumstances should members ever give away their authorization again until they&#039;ve seen and rejected the company&#039;s proposal. If it sucks, vote accordingly and support whatever happens. Fact is healthcare is about on a par with pensions in terms of dollars involved and importance to people. In 2018, sticking your head in the sand like so many did in 97 is probably not a good idea.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Packmule, post: 2256479, member: 33558"] In the game is right about contract date. 2018, not 2017. Got that mixed up with something else. As for Carey, got off with a lifetime ban from union involvement was what the last news I heard said. He is also technically right that Taft Hartley was threatened, but not invoked. What's the difference? Point was their was a lot of illegal money being passed around between Teamster's and the DNC. It's not hard to connect the dots. As for strike authorization issues, I'm going off of what our business agent was telling us. And to answer Overpaid's question, no, we did not get to see the company's offer until after we were already on strike. And only then because management brought it out to us on the strike line. But it's all history. We can with learn from it or be destined to repeat it. My suggestion is under no circumstances should members ever give away their authorization again until they've seen and rejected the company's proposal. If it sucks, vote accordingly and support whatever happens. Fact is healthcare is about on a par with pensions in terms of dollars involved and importance to people. In 2018, sticking your head in the sand like so many did in 97 is probably not a good idea. [/QUOTE]

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