Returntosender
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Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
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A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it be?
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Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
Are scabs allowed to vote on the contract then ?
Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
The Union is just a distributor of the Health Plan. UPS is still paying for it under the CBA. The reason the union is taking over the plan is so UPS can shift the liability from long term to short term. It's just like the rest of the things UPS does...play with the numbers to make things work. UPS plays Moneyball better than Billy Beane.
The Union is just a distributor of the Health Plan. UPS is still paying for it under the CBA. The reason the union is taking over the plan is so UPS can shift the liability from long term to short term. It's just like the rest of the things UPS does...play with the numbers to make things work. UPS plays Moneyball better than Billy Beane.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
This is technically incorrect. UPS pays a set amount per hour to the union for our health and welfare benefits. It is up to the Union to find a healthcare plan with premiums at or below what UPS is paying them. The union may add co-pays and deductibles in order to keep their healthcare costs down. If the union is unable to find a healthcare plan with premiums less than or equal to what UPS is paying them it must either make up the difference or pass it along to their members.
This is technically incorrect. UPS pays a set amount per hour to the union for our health and welfare benefits. It is up to the Union to find a healthcare plan with premiums at or below what UPS is paying them. The union may add co-pays and deductibles in order to keep their healthcare costs down. If the union is unable to find a healthcare plan with premiums less than or equal to what UPS is paying them it must either make up the difference or pass it along to their members.
Mystakilla
Who the *$#@ cares.
Very well said, specially the last part.
It all just comes down to it was bound to happen over time.
It is what it is and regardless of what everyone votes its going to go through.
Might as well make the best out of it while we have it for a few years, its sure to change.
It all just comes down to it was bound to happen over time.
It is what it is and regardless of what everyone votes its going to go through.
Might as well make the best out of it while we have it for a few years, its sure to change.
brownmonster
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Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
I thought this contract talk would entice you back.
I thought this contract talk would entice you back.
Mystakilla
Who the *$#@ cares.
It has been for years....
Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
not at these amounts.
Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
So the union gets $x to pay for UPS Teamsters health insurance. Union shops it around and finds insurance company willing to cover at a cost of y=x-8%. What would you like to see the union do with the savings? If the ACA works as planned and insurance costs go down creating an even larger savings would you want it going to political campaigns to further union expansion, to direct union campaigning, or refunded to the union membership? Unions are exempt from the tax on Cadillac plans, but I am not certain can they enroll in the exchanges? If so, that would I think drive costs lower. The government now has a very real stake in making this work.
So the union gets $x to pay for UPS Teamsters health insurance. Union shops it around and finds insurance company willing to cover at a cost of y=x-8%. What would you like to see the union do with the savings? If the ACA works as planned and insurance costs go down creating an even larger savings would you want it going to political campaigns to further union expansion, to direct union campaigning, or refunded to the union membership? Unions are exempt from the tax on Cadillac plans, but I am not certain can they enroll in the exchanges? If so, that would I think drive costs lower. The government now has a very real stake in making this work.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
Our BA did mention the exchanges in our meeting last week but that was in regard to retiree insurance only.
Our BA did mention the exchanges in our meeting last week but that was in regard to retiree insurance only.
bottomups
Bad Moon Risen'
Re: A conspiracy theory. If the Healthcare was planed from get go, how deep could it
Contributions going to the union is for Health, Welfare & Pension. If there was any savings with insurance costs decreasing, the balance would most likely be allocated to pensions. Pretty sure any contributions to political campaigns would not be legal.
Contributions going to the union is for Health, Welfare & Pension. If there was any savings with insurance costs decreasing, the balance would most likely be allocated to pensions. Pretty sure any contributions to political campaigns would not be legal.
