A lot of talk but...

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by bowhnterdon, May 6, 2018.

  1. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Member

    Just my two cents. I do not see anything different than the past several contracts, except this will most likely be voted down mainly because of the involvement of social media. What will be the same is, work under the old agreement until enough people finally say F it, give me Retro Junior and DT will never call a strike . I believe some of these folks were kicked off because they made too much noise about what is going on behind closed doors
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Disagree Disagree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • List
  2. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    For most it ultimately comes down to the money: wages, pension, and healthcare. Take care of those 3 things and the contract will pass.
     
  3. wide load

    wide load 4 10’s without OT is a concession.

    First guy, are you saying we will get $8.90 in wage, H&W over 5 years?

    Second guy, although I agree with you on health and pension, I believe that this contract is more to do about working conditions than it is about money.
     
    • Like Like x 6
    • Agree Agree x 6
    • List
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.
     
  5. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    I think a lot of people are upset about the working conditions but the majority will vote with their wallets. We'll see though.
     
  6. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    When you are serving in an appointed position on a committee, you follow the rules

    or you're not part of it anymore.... and that's exactly what happened. Real simple.

    And, how would they know (if anything) is happening "behind closed doors" ?


    Truth be told, they are afraid of their own members and are using the situation to look like

    martyrs, for their own political gain and survival.



    -Bug-
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Creative Creative x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • List
  7. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I'm the totally opposite. I'd rather have less money and be treated like a human being. That's why i am ready to walk the line and work on my tan.
     
    • Agree Agree x 10
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • List
  8. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    You're in feeders now brah. Soon all that mistreatment and harassment will seem like a bad dream.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • List
  9. opie

    opie Member

    How likely will this contract get voted down? Last one barely passed by 4,000 votes, and there was less upheavel then compared to now.
     
  10. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Yup I have already experienced it and am ready to move on. I'll still continue to fight for the package car guys because I know first hand how miserable all those games can make you feel. We all stand together.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Beer Beer x 1
    • List
  11. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Member

    Ok BUG,if the master is voted down,strike authorization approved ,you see Hoffa calling a strike at any point?
     
  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Right now, the IBT is making all the correct moves. A strike is the last resort.

    Anyone, with any Union experience would tell you this.



    -Bug-
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • List
  13. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Member

    I know it a last resort.I was hired in ‘83,been a Shop Steward for 23 years,I just don’t think it is a plan B,C or part of any plan.UPS knows Hoffa just ain’t going to do it
     
  14. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Did they tell you that ?
     
  15. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Member

    Of course not,have they told you different? Just my opinion.You think he will if it comes down to it? Hell I would not be surprised if it was forced on us. Yeah I know everyone says they can’t .Not so sure myself
     
  16. BigBrown1234

    BigBrown1234 Active Member

    4D0B66C3-36EF-4F47-B6B4-603B95997334.jpeg

    Said like a true Poet
     
  17. wide load

    wide load 4 10’s without OT is a concession.

    Speedo or boxer briefs?
     
  18. BigBrown1234

    BigBrown1234 Active Member

    Banana hammock for sure
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • List
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I don't speak on anyones behalf.... let alone.... the General President.



    -Bug-
     
  20. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    I was going to tell @Indecisi0n how much I liked his post....

    But, I didn't want to give him any false hope. :biggrin:
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    • List