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<blockquote data-quote="curiousbrain" data-source="post: 1058769" data-attributes="member: 31608"><p>Ok; I think I found it now.</p><p></p><p>1) Do you think all upper management has never been on the floor?</p><p></p><p>Yes and no; yes, in the sense that some of them have, in fact, been on "the floor." No, in the sense that some of them have, in fact, not been on "the floor." I think that this is just a result of the sort of corporate structure that exists nowadays - management largely consists of a few from the "inside", with most from the "outside." That's not to say that I'm advocating either way, but rather just making an observation.</p><p></p><p>2) This job is a lot easier than you guys make it out to be.</p><p></p><p>That, if nothing else, strikes me as ignorant about issues on "the floor." Being a full-time manager who barks orders: yep, that's easy. Being a part-time sup who has to balance actual workers with actual lives who happen to be actual human beings: difficult. I'm not attempting to imply that managers don't have to balance personal relationships, either; but, I am attempting to imply that to say that this balance is "easy" is a gross misconception of a large part of what being on "the floor" is about.</p><p></p><p>3) Are the hours long? Absolutely.</p><p></p><p>I agree; especially when you work part-time hours for full-time pay. Of course, that's not something "they" are allowed to ask, imply, or even really talk about; and yet, it happens constantly. Today is the day after Thanksgiving - maybe it happened a lot today. Whatever the case may be, the hours are insane.</p><p></p><p>4) Is there a lot of paperwork bs? Of course.</p><p></p><p>I do a decent amount of my full-time managers paperwork, and it's ... amusing? Yeah, amusing.</p><p></p><p>5) Does it require a sharp mind? Nope.</p><p></p><p>I'd be lying if I said that, even in my small little slice of UPS, I haven't driven home some days and asked myself if the human race was slowly devolving. But, the people I meet in this company that people have speaken the most highly of, have been extremely dedicated individuals who are very sharp.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">6) At the end of the day all we do is move packages, not exactly brain surgery.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">You're right - the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of man-hours that have probably been spent developing the technologies and delivery network that services millions of people is a lucky accident. Nothing to see here.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Almost all of my managers worked as an hourly at some point - and if I may interject my own observation, that's the problem: "at some point." So, yeah, they worked Preload in 1985 or 1989, and they were on "the floor." Obviously (or perhaps not so obviously), things are so insane now that beyond a certain level, people aren't even really allowed to "see" how things work, for reasons of deniability.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">That's the long answer.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">My short answer would be that, based on my observation of the management apparatus so far, a more accurate statement might be that most upper management already know what their upper management want to hear.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="curiousbrain, post: 1058769, member: 31608"] Ok; I think I found it now. 1) Do you think all upper management has never been on the floor? Yes and no; yes, in the sense that some of them have, in fact, been on "the floor." No, in the sense that some of them have, in fact, not been on "the floor." I think that this is just a result of the sort of corporate structure that exists nowadays - management largely consists of a few from the "inside", with most from the "outside." That's not to say that I'm advocating either way, but rather just making an observation. 2) This job is a lot easier than you guys make it out to be. That, if nothing else, strikes me as ignorant about issues on "the floor." Being a full-time manager who barks orders: yep, that's easy. Being a part-time sup who has to balance actual workers with actual lives who happen to be actual human beings: difficult. I'm not attempting to imply that managers don't have to balance personal relationships, either; but, I am attempting to imply that to say that this balance is "easy" is a gross misconception of a large part of what being on "the floor" is about. 3) Are the hours long? Absolutely. I agree; especially when you work part-time hours for full-time pay. Of course, that's not something "they" are allowed to ask, imply, or even really talk about; and yet, it happens constantly. Today is the day after Thanksgiving - maybe it happened a lot today. Whatever the case may be, the hours are insane. 4) Is there a lot of paperwork bs? Of course. I do a decent amount of my full-time managers paperwork, and it's ... amusing? Yeah, amusing. 5) Does it require a sharp mind? Nope. I'd be lying if I said that, even in my small little slice of UPS, I haven't driven home some days and asked myself if the human race was slowly devolving. But, the people I meet in this company that people have speaken the most highly of, have been extremely dedicated individuals who are very sharp. [LEFT][COLOR=#000000]6) At the end of the day all we do is move packages, not exactly brain surgery. You're right - the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of man-hours that have probably been spent developing the technologies and delivery network that services millions of people is a lucky accident. Nothing to see here. Almost all of my managers worked as an hourly at some point - and if I may interject my own observation, that's the problem: "at some point." So, yeah, they worked Preload in 1985 or 1989, and they were on "the floor." Obviously (or perhaps not so obviously), things are so insane now that beyond a certain level, people aren't even really allowed to "see" how things work, for reasons of deniability. That's the long answer. My short answer would be that, based on my observation of the management apparatus so far, a more accurate statement might be that most upper management already know what their upper management want to hear. [/COLOR][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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