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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 79385" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Hmmmm! So does that mean my admiration and even even my vote for the late Senator Patrick Daniel Moynihan if I could would not count? Oh yeah, we differ in some areas but I always felt he was honest and sincere and that was a trait not shared by many especially in the corridors of power. He wanted to help people but he also understood the danger of maintaining a bureaucracy and keeping people chained to it. It's one thing to help people stand up and walk but it's another thing to help people up and then knock them down again only to help them up only to knock them down again. How can you end poverty and hardship while at the same time structuring laws that forment it. As to political libertarianism is not a form of gov't or even a party, contary to the fact there is a party by that name, it's an individual mindset and way of life. That's another reason I'm no longer a member of the party itself and haven't been for about 8 years. Does libertarian thought effect the political? Sure but no more than being Christian or atheist or any other belief system with it's own principles of how people should deal and interact with one another. Most people use what is described as libertarian principles every day when dealing with people albeit we don't call it as such. It's just ironic we've lost those principles when it comes to how and what we expect out of gov't. </p><p> </p><p>You are right about liars and damn liars and the old adage, "When can you tell a politician is lying? When his lips move!" Funny, we toss that old adage around and then we make statements like "liars and damn liars" about politicians but then we turn around and lay all our well being and faith into their hands. We're like sex addicts who want genuine love but we go down the street to the local brothel to the same old "lady of the evening" for love and then on our never ending trips to the doctor for the shot to kill the STD we whine and complain and moan about having to always come to the doctor to get the shot. </p><p> </p><p>Could it be that at some point we need to step back and look at what love really is and the proper place to get it? The best people to work with to build a good and caring society are the very people you live with and call your neighbor and friends. Hillary Clinton had it half right when she said "it takes a village" and she's absolutely right but she left off the other half that has just as much importance and this is the complete quote.</p><p> </p><p>"It takes a village not a national central gov't!" </p><p> </p><p>As to the curmudgeon part, well speak for yourself!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" /> </p><p> </p><p>You know you aren't a good fisherman at all. You been dippin' and dippin' that hook and the big one you're really after just don't want to seem to bite these days. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Lol :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p> </p><p>Bill Dance, Roland Martin, Orlando Wilson, Hank Parker, etc. have always said presentation is the most important aspect of catching the big fish. Guess you just ain't got it! Hey I tired to help!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" /> </p><p> </p><p>C YA! It's been fun!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 79385, member: 2189"] Hmmmm! So does that mean my admiration and even even my vote for the late Senator Patrick Daniel Moynihan if I could would not count? Oh yeah, we differ in some areas but I always felt he was honest and sincere and that was a trait not shared by many especially in the corridors of power. He wanted to help people but he also understood the danger of maintaining a bureaucracy and keeping people chained to it. It's one thing to help people stand up and walk but it's another thing to help people up and then knock them down again only to help them up only to knock them down again. How can you end poverty and hardship while at the same time structuring laws that forment it. As to political libertarianism is not a form of gov't or even a party, contary to the fact there is a party by that name, it's an individual mindset and way of life. That's another reason I'm no longer a member of the party itself and haven't been for about 8 years. Does libertarian thought effect the political? Sure but no more than being Christian or atheist or any other belief system with it's own principles of how people should deal and interact with one another. Most people use what is described as libertarian principles every day when dealing with people albeit we don't call it as such. It's just ironic we've lost those principles when it comes to how and what we expect out of gov't. You are right about liars and damn liars and the old adage, "When can you tell a politician is lying? When his lips move!" Funny, we toss that old adage around and then we make statements like "liars and damn liars" about politicians but then we turn around and lay all our well being and faith into their hands. We're like sex addicts who want genuine love but we go down the street to the local brothel to the same old "lady of the evening" for love and then on our never ending trips to the doctor for the shot to kill the STD we whine and complain and moan about having to always come to the doctor to get the shot. Could it be that at some point we need to step back and look at what love really is and the proper place to get it? The best people to work with to build a good and caring society are the very people you live with and call your neighbor and friends. Hillary Clinton had it half right when she said "it takes a village" and she's absolutely right but she left off the other half that has just as much importance and this is the complete quote. "It takes a village not a national central gov't!" As to the curmudgeon part, well speak for yourself!:wink: You know you aren't a good fisherman at all. You been dippin' and dippin' that hook and the big one you're really after just don't want to seem to bite these days. :lol: Bill Dance, Roland Martin, Orlando Wilson, Hank Parker, etc. have always said presentation is the most important aspect of catching the big fish. Guess you just ain't got it! Hey I tired to help!:wink: C YA! It's been fun! [/QUOTE]
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