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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 707933" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Tourist,</p><p> </p><p>I like the site as well. Found it several years ago and many, many, many of the articles are both thought provoking and challenging to long held ideals. If you accept as a first principle self ownership then voluntaryism or what some call free market mutualism seems a system if you will with a lot to offer if we would give it some consideration. </p><p> </p><p>Voluntaryism allows individuals to make their own choices, some may choose a variation of a capitalist economic model, others may choose a more Marxian social approach, others may choose other means but there is no compelling force to enter, stay or leave any approach or any single soceital model. </p><p> </p><p>What works best will depend on the persons and group but I'm betting the best approach over a broad base of people will be some completely hybrid model (using today's most known socio/economic models) so when one talks of voluntaryism, it is a true free market of ideas where those ideas don't come to the top by force and conquest but come to the top because they truly work as one now has actual proof. You'll choose a socio/economic society like you choose any other product in the marketplace except the idea of this marketplace is truly free and open to anyone and anything. No copyright or intellectual property rights here if you will.</p><p> </p><p>If you take the "A" personality heirarchy of society (not all "A's" are morally bad either) out of the way or their use of community force and illusion of elitist standing, I think most groups of people who work together will have very similar structure and broader cooperation, voluntary of course, would be fairly widespread. Economic trade and cooperation could also be widespread as well. Obviously, all this for now is theory and to many if not most, pie in the sky and right now it is.</p><p> </p><p>But once we begin to step out of the box and look around, good ideas are everywhere but we're just not allowed by the heirarchy to consider them because it would threaten their position and power. It all comes back to the basic question, "Who owns you?" and then the next question is "Do you own others?" If the answer to the first question is "no one" and the next answer is "no I don't" then this opens up a huge pandora's box, one that some people don't want you to open.</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 707933, member: 2189"] Tourist, I like the site as well. Found it several years ago and many, many, many of the articles are both thought provoking and challenging to long held ideals. If you accept as a first principle self ownership then voluntaryism or what some call free market mutualism seems a system if you will with a lot to offer if we would give it some consideration. Voluntaryism allows individuals to make their own choices, some may choose a variation of a capitalist economic model, others may choose a more Marxian social approach, others may choose other means but there is no compelling force to enter, stay or leave any approach or any single soceital model. What works best will depend on the persons and group but I'm betting the best approach over a broad base of people will be some completely hybrid model (using today's most known socio/economic models) so when one talks of voluntaryism, it is a true free market of ideas where those ideas don't come to the top by force and conquest but come to the top because they truly work as one now has actual proof. You'll choose a socio/economic society like you choose any other product in the marketplace except the idea of this marketplace is truly free and open to anyone and anything. No copyright or intellectual property rights here if you will. If you take the "A" personality heirarchy of society (not all "A's" are morally bad either) out of the way or their use of community force and illusion of elitist standing, I think most groups of people who work together will have very similar structure and broader cooperation, voluntary of course, would be fairly widespread. Economic trade and cooperation could also be widespread as well. Obviously, all this for now is theory and to many if not most, pie in the sky and right now it is. But once we begin to step out of the box and look around, good ideas are everywhere but we're just not allowed by the heirarchy to consider them because it would threaten their position and power. It all comes back to the basic question, "Who owns you?" and then the next question is "Do you own others?" If the answer to the first question is "no one" and the next answer is "no I don't" then this opens up a huge pandora's box, one that some people don't want you to open. :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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