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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 828316" data-attributes="member: 13254"><p><span style="color: sienna"><em><strong> I'm sure it has been going on for a long time, but not in the amount of incidents we have had lately.</strong></em></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: sienna"><em><strong> The problem isn't as critical in a 12 person operation as it is in a one person gig. At least there was someone available to wake them up. I don't know the break down on the specifics of each incident, but do know that at least two were one man operations. Don't blame the co-workers for leaking it to the press, this kind of thing has to be reported to "management" which goes into the reports, which is monitored by the press. When this happens in a one man op, there are hundreds of lives in danger, it is a big deal. I'm sure you would agree if you were in that plane.</strong></em></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: sienna"><em><strong> I agree 99%, I'm not too sure the rest break is enough of a solution. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it isn't a dang good start, just that it isn't a complete solution. IMO, the FAA needs to take some serious looks at the times of service as opposed to the time off the job. As it was until a day or two ago a controller could work 8 hrs be off 8 hrs and then return for another 8 hr shift. That is no where near enough time off the job. Instead of having a nap time, they should add a few more hours to the "off the job" time. Work 8 hr shift, minimum of 12 hours off before returning to work. Most people require 8 hours of sleep to keep the body and mind in good working order. When someone is only off the job for 8 hrs, we're looking at less than 5-6 hours sleep max. Also, IMO, they need to do away with rotating shifts, it's hard for ones body to adapt to vastly changing sleep times. When the changes happen every week of two, the body and mind are just beginning to adapt to the new sleep patterns when it's time to change again. Sure, there are some people that can do this without a lot of problems, but they are few and far between. </strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: sienna"><em><strong></strong></em></span> </p><p></p><p><span style="color: sienna"><em><strong> If a person continually fails to preform their job, by all means get rid of them. There's more to this than someone not doing their job, it's a system that leads to this kind of failure. </strong></em></span></p><p><span style="color: sienna"><em><strong></strong></em></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 828316, member: 13254"] [COLOR=sienna][I][B] I'm sure it has been going on for a long time, but not in the amount of incidents we have had lately.[/B][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=sienna][I][B] The problem isn't as critical in a 12 person operation as it is in a one person gig. At least there was someone available to wake them up. I don't know the break down on the specifics of each incident, but do know that at least two were one man operations. Don't blame the co-workers for leaking it to the press, this kind of thing has to be reported to "management" which goes into the reports, which is monitored by the press. When this happens in a one man op, there are hundreds of lives in danger, it is a big deal. I'm sure you would agree if you were in that plane.[/B][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=sienna][I][B] I agree 99%, I'm not too sure the rest break is enough of a solution. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it isn't a dang good start, just that it isn't a complete solution. IMO, the FAA needs to take some serious looks at the times of service as opposed to the time off the job. As it was until a day or two ago a controller could work 8 hrs be off 8 hrs and then return for another 8 hr shift. That is no where near enough time off the job. Instead of having a nap time, they should add a few more hours to the "off the job" time. Work 8 hr shift, minimum of 12 hours off before returning to work. Most people require 8 hours of sleep to keep the body and mind in good working order. When someone is only off the job for 8 hrs, we're looking at less than 5-6 hours sleep max. Also, IMO, they need to do away with rotating shifts, it's hard for ones body to adapt to vastly changing sleep times. When the changes happen every week of two, the body and mind are just beginning to adapt to the new sleep patterns when it's time to change again. Sure, there are some people that can do this without a lot of problems, but they are few and far between. [/B][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=sienna][I][B] If a person continually fails to preform their job, by all means get rid of them. There's more to this than someone not doing their job, it's a system that leads to this kind of failure. [/B][/I][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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