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<blockquote data-quote="Whither" data-source="post: 4099234" data-attributes="member: 76643"><p>I respect that. Felt similarly when I started considering UPS. It's your call, but I'd still encourage you to give UPS a shot <em>if </em>you can get into driving off-the-street. It's true, unions are slowly dying, but at my building the joke is: you haven't been at UPS very long if you haven't been fired. In the vast majority of cases, the Teamsters will be able to get you back on the payroll. I know you're aware that Amazon can 'off-board' you and even your contractor has no say, and worse, you won't be able to go to another Amazon contractor ...</p><p></p><p>The tallest hurdle at UPS is 'making book' -- qualifying as a permanent FT driver. After your first 30 days, you can settle into the grind, e.g., work safely, follow the methods, take your breaks, run your routes competently. Like all companies UPS preaches safety to cover its hide, but they're going to toss you into situations where there's just no way you can meet their production quotas <em>and </em>run the route safely. Always choose the latter. It's your life, your body, your career on the line. But you can let mgmt can nit-pick all they want; as a Teamster you should let it go in one ear and out the other. If their time studies/performance metrics are garbage, that's the company's problem, not yours. Most of us drivers would love to get home at a decent hour, but rushing to meet their damn numbers isn't worth the increased risk of injuring yourself, let alone the risk of striking a pedestrian, cyclist, another car, etc. It may take more time, but -- <em>always</em> find a safe path well ahead, stay back and see it all, scan (for all the possible hazards), don't stare (at your stops per hour), and leave yourself an out. </p><p></p><p>Here's a fine example of the attitude you'll need to grow into: <a href="https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/9-45-start-times.382618/#post-4087344" target="_blank">9:45 start times?</a> </p><p></p><p>If you decide the money's not worth the trouble, you can always go back to Amazon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whither, post: 4099234, member: 76643"] I respect that. Felt similarly when I started considering UPS. It's your call, but I'd still encourage you to give UPS a shot [I]if [/I]you can get into driving off-the-street. It's true, unions are slowly dying, but at my building the joke is: you haven't been at UPS very long if you haven't been fired. In the vast majority of cases, the Teamsters will be able to get you back on the payroll. I know you're aware that Amazon can 'off-board' you and even your contractor has no say, and worse, you won't be able to go to another Amazon contractor ... The tallest hurdle at UPS is 'making book' -- qualifying as a permanent FT driver. After your first 30 days, you can settle into the grind, e.g., work safely, follow the methods, take your breaks, run your routes competently. Like all companies UPS preaches safety to cover its hide, but they're going to toss you into situations where there's just no way you can meet their production quotas [I]and [/I]run the route safely. Always choose the latter. It's your life, your body, your career on the line. But you can let mgmt can nit-pick all they want; as a Teamster you should let it go in one ear and out the other. If their time studies/performance metrics are garbage, that's the company's problem, not yours. Most of us drivers would love to get home at a decent hour, but rushing to meet their damn numbers isn't worth the increased risk of injuring yourself, let alone the risk of striking a pedestrian, cyclist, another car, etc. It may take more time, but -- [I]always[/I] find a safe path well ahead, stay back and see it all, scan (for all the possible hazards), don't stare (at your stops per hour), and leave yourself an out. Here's a fine example of the attitude you'll need to grow into: [URL="https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/9-45-start-times.382618/#post-4087344"]9:45 start times?[/URL] If you decide the money's not worth the trouble, you can always go back to Amazon. [/QUOTE]
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