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<blockquote data-quote="TUT" data-source="post: 2197979" data-attributes="member: 29298"><p>IMO you've been brainwashed and don't even know it. Here is what happens with no social and using private investment, one the system will be rigged from time to time by people at the top and shave off dollars from Wall Street, which will directly come out of your investments. Count on it. That is bad enough but not as bad as this... You will do something to screw up your private fund and then will still need help from the gov't in your golden years or you will die. See that is what they already know. They want your money now because that is at least something vs we don't collect anything, they are in dire straits and have to give something and borrow against zero dollars previously collected. Leaving it up to us, they know way too many will blow it. </p><p></p><p>You list some programs like if they weren't there everything would just be ok, we'd do a better job policing ourselves. What in Julio's name makes you truly believe that? What I learned over my adult life is curroption is rampant and I'm not talking politics, I'm talking people in business hustling, it's crazy the black market. We will not live like nice people if we aren't governed, there will be more shady deals and suffering over all. Oils spills will just be deal with it, I don't live here. Poison in food, deal with it. Building code, <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> crumbles, deal with it. If business weren't liable, they will take full advantage and it only takes one person in any industry that forces everyone in the industry to mimic, otherwise they can't compete.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TUT, post: 2197979, member: 29298"] IMO you've been brainwashed and don't even know it. Here is what happens with no social and using private investment, one the system will be rigged from time to time by people at the top and shave off dollars from Wall Street, which will directly come out of your investments. Count on it. That is bad enough but not as bad as this... You will do something to screw up your private fund and then will still need help from the gov't in your golden years or you will die. See that is what they already know. They want your money now because that is at least something vs we don't collect anything, they are in dire straits and have to give something and borrow against zero dollars previously collected. Leaving it up to us, they know way too many will blow it. You list some programs like if they weren't there everything would just be ok, we'd do a better job policing ourselves. What in Julio's name makes you truly believe that? What I learned over my adult life is curroption is rampant and I'm not talking politics, I'm talking people in business hustling, it's crazy the black market. We will not live like nice people if we aren't governed, there will be more shady deals and suffering over all. Oils spills will just be deal with it, I don't live here. Poison in food, deal with it. Building code, :censored: crumbles, deal with it. If business weren't liable, they will take full advantage and it only takes one person in any industry that forces everyone in the industry to mimic, otherwise they can't compete. [/QUOTE]
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