Amazon "Flex" - $18-25/hr to deliver in targeted cities

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by PiedmontSteward, Sep 30, 2015.

  1. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    Looks like Amazon is rolling out their own "actual" delivery service and it follows the same model for delivering pizzas.

    That $18-25/hr number sounds a bit high (even after factoring in vehicle maintenance, gas, mileage, etc.) but I expect to see that nose dive once they saturate their workforce with enough independent contractors. The same thing happened to Uber in the beginning; they still tout drivers making "$100,000/year" (which may have been possible when the app was first introduced) but once they saturated their own labor market with freelance drivers, they increased fees and dropped pay.

    They didn't skip a beat as they still had enough suckers on the hook too invested in the job to drop out.

    It's going to be interesting to see if there's any DOT hurdles (although they seem to be capping out at "12 hours/day") or any other legal challenges to this business model. As it stands right now, they would probably be impossible to organize due to (almost certainly) being 1099'd employees.
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  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Obscured by Mirrors Staff Member

    Any modern business model would prevent this although this is a service industry, which is about the only industry where Unions are viable anymore.
  3. BrownBrokeDown

    BrownBrokeDown Active Member

    I put winner because you made a solid point, but really there are no winners...
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  4. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Obscured by Mirrors Staff Member

    Agree ... Unions are about the only way for no-college educated Americans to be paid good wages and benefits when working for someone else

    Starting your own business is the best way to do so.
  5. arice11

    arice11 Active Member

    I guess Amazon abandoned the whole "drone delivery" idea already. Won't be long before automated cars do the delivery and driving and the only thing they'll have to pay it is some attention in maintenance between routes.
  6. lowats

    lowats Member

    When I took my CDL class amazon was sending classes of 20 people per week to go learn about their CDL
  7. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    They need yard spotters. When the new building opened in wi they drove up people from florida
  8. wide load

    wide load 4 10’s without OT is a concession.

    Whatever they do, I don't recommend linking it up to Orion!!
  9. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    I forbid my wife from using Amazon about 6or 7 months ago.
  10. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    I forbid my wife from doing something once. Once.
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  11. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Is she your property or something? Oy vey.
  12. MoarTape

    MoarTape Active Member

    You shouldn't have shot me, Johnny. My grandmother shot me once...
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  13. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    Interesting that they are only developing the app for Android. That's going to piss a lot of iPhone users off.:P

    Will an Amazon delivery shirt be required? It's not safe for people to be walking on properties in street clothes.

    Efficiency is going to be an issue. How many packages can people really pickup from an Amazon warehouse to stuff in their Honda Civics?
  14. arice11

    arice11 Active Member

    Awesome movie reference.
  15. Ms.PacMan

    Ms.PacMan Well-Known Member

    I think their original press release saying they would offer $5/box was better / ka ching!!

    Do they even care how many boxes the person delivers in an hour?
  16. arice11

    arice11 Active Member

    I have a Honda Civic. I've been known to fit my band's equipment inside it. It could be a pretty fun job actually.
  17. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Imagine trying to stuff a treadmill into a civic!
  18. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    You bring up a good point. This model couldn't possibly pay an "hourly" rate. There would have to be a system that sets pay rate per delivery by locations that determine distance and travel time.
    Just like most independent contractor models. Otherwise you have these people milking time.
  19. Re-Raise

    Re-Raise Well-Known Member

    I have some time between pick-ups. Where do I sign up?
  20. 9.5 everyday

    9.5 everyday Active Member

    Lol. How's that going?