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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1792701" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>What am I if I don't agree nor even support Obama, Hillary or Sanders nor for that matter never vote democrat yet:</p><p></p><p>1) Oppose the present form of capitalism we have now to the point of being comfortable with the label anti-capitalist</p><p>2) Fully support absolute free markets</p><p>3) Oppose a centralized state</p><p>4) Find State intervention as harmful and intended to rig markets rather than to balance (bring fairness) to markets</p><p>5) Find the otherwise central state as harmful to both human action and human evolution</p><p>6) Advocate for the total elimination of the State</p><p>7) Advocate for counter economics which use black and gray markets to tunnel around and under existing economic orders with the goal to weaken or even collapse them</p><p>8) Find value in some of Marx criticism of so-called capitalism which he just called capital</p><p>9) Consider the anti state communist Bakunin a hero and advocate reading his works ("God and State" a must read)</p><p>10) Consider Joseph Pierre Proudhon who said "Property is theft" a hero</p><p>11) Consider the Socialist/Mutualist Benjamin Tucker a hero for his advocacy of Free Markets</p><p>12) Like socialists like Chris Hedges and economist Gar Alperovitz who advocates for cooperatives and collaborative economics</p><p>13) Consider Rothbard, Mises, Hayek, Bastiat must reads</p><p>14) Also Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Thomas Hodgkins</p><p>15) Consider the American Anarchist Lysander Spooner a big hero</p><p>16) Agree and Disagree with Ayn Rand who by her own words was no libertarian nor anarchist and openly detested both</p><p>17) I'm VERY ANTI-WAR and like General Smedley Butler who said "War is a racket" agree with him completely</p><p>18) I'm pro union but of the pre-gov't intervention kind such as the Wobblies or Knights of Labor who understood that gov't was a force for the bosses and not a force for the interests of the working class. Contract management unionism is a boss system and not a worker system and thus why it no longer works.</p><p></p><p>I'm also comfortable and have been since the late 80's in calling myself a libertarian (State Delegate to Libertarian Party in early/mid 90's) and of the last 10 plus years having taken libertarianism to its conclusion in anarchism.</p><p></p><p>So there is a VERY broad brush of me and since you seem to like labeling people and you call yourself a libertarian, what would you call all of this listed above?</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">This should be fun! <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1792701, member: 2189"] What am I if I don't agree nor even support Obama, Hillary or Sanders nor for that matter never vote democrat yet: 1) Oppose the present form of capitalism we have now to the point of being comfortable with the label anti-capitalist 2) Fully support absolute free markets 3) Oppose a centralized state 4) Find State intervention as harmful and intended to rig markets rather than to balance (bring fairness) to markets 5) Find the otherwise central state as harmful to both human action and human evolution 6) Advocate for the total elimination of the State 7) Advocate for counter economics which use black and gray markets to tunnel around and under existing economic orders with the goal to weaken or even collapse them 8) Find value in some of Marx criticism of so-called capitalism which he just called capital 9) Consider the anti state communist Bakunin a hero and advocate reading his works ("God and State" a must read) 10) Consider Joseph Pierre Proudhon who said "Property is theft" a hero 11) Consider the Socialist/Mutualist Benjamin Tucker a hero for his advocacy of Free Markets 12) Like socialists like Chris Hedges and economist Gar Alperovitz who advocates for cooperatives and collaborative economics 13) Consider Rothbard, Mises, Hayek, Bastiat must reads 14) Also Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Thomas Hodgkins 15) Consider the American Anarchist Lysander Spooner a big hero 16) Agree and Disagree with Ayn Rand who by her own words was no libertarian nor anarchist and openly detested both 17) I'm VERY ANTI-WAR and like General Smedley Butler who said "War is a racket" agree with him completely 18) I'm pro union but of the pre-gov't intervention kind such as the Wobblies or Knights of Labor who understood that gov't was a force for the bosses and not a force for the interests of the working class. Contract management unionism is a boss system and not a worker system and thus why it no longer works. I'm also comfortable and have been since the late 80's in calling myself a libertarian (State Delegate to Libertarian Party in early/mid 90's) and of the last 10 plus years having taken libertarianism to its conclusion in anarchism. So there is a VERY broad brush of me and since you seem to like labeling people and you call yourself a libertarian, what would you call all of this listed above? [SIZE=1]This should be fun! ;)[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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