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<blockquote data-quote="quadro" data-source="post: 270988" data-attributes="member: 12850"><p>Relative to most companies, FedEx also has much, much higher capital and labor expenditures. And when logic fails, you result to name calling???</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Decent homes where I live cost $650,000 and that's higher than most of the country. How do people in other entry level positions make ends meet? How does the wage and benefit package at FedEx compare to most (not just one, i.e. UPS) companies for their entry level workers? I'm not saying it is good or bad, I'm just saying you should be asking yourself these questions and doing some research.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>If you don't see a wholesale elimination, then that somewhat confirms my suspicion that you're lacking in your research. Here's a quote from the New York Times:</p><p><em>Now, with the recent announcements of pension freezes by some of the cream of corporate America - </em><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/redirect/marketwatch/redirect.ctx?MW=http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=VZ" target="_blank"><u><em>Verizon</em></u></a><em>, Lockheed Martin, </em><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/redirect/marketwatch/redirect.ctx?MW=http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=MEU" target="_blank"><u><em>Motorola</em></u></a><em> and, just last week, </em><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/redirect/marketwatch/redirect.ctx?MW=http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=IBM" target="_blank"><u><em>I.B.M.</em></u></a><em> - the bell is tolling even louder. Even strong, stable companies with the means to operate a pension plan are facing longer worker lifespans, looming regulatory and accounting changes and, most important, heightened global competition. Some are deciding they either cannot, or will not, keep making the decades-long promises that a pension plan involves.</em></p><p>But please don't take my word for it. I'm not here to tell you that you are right or wrong, I'm just encouraging you to be fully informed.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Fair enough. However, if lack of pay = disgruntled employee = bad service, how will a customer be happy with DHL? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure their drivers don't make as much as FedEx's.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>So all things considered for you, it's still the best deal going otherwise you'd leave? And who cares how long it takes to top out? If top out pay was one cent more than your making now and you got that raise tomorrow would you be happy? Didn't think so. But you would be topped out.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Again with the insults. Look, if you can't find credible evidence to show how I'd be better off, that's ok. As I've stated, for me things are a good deal. I would like to be paid more, who wouldn't? I've asked you to research the items that I feel you are mistaken about. I've asked you to be informed so that you can make an educated, not emotional decision. You accuse me of being a "sheeple", when you are doing exactly that and following those who believe unionizing would improve things but you've got some of your facts wrong.</p><p>As I've said, if you feel that a union would help you, more power to you. I'm not going to insult you because you see things differently from me. Just be informed and remember, the moment you get a union, you start with nothing. Are you sure that they can negotiate a better overall environment for you? Without research and facts, you won't know. Be careful what you wish for as you just might get it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="quadro, post: 270988, member: 12850"] Relative to most companies, FedEx also has much, much higher capital and labor expenditures. And when logic fails, you result to name calling??? Decent homes where I live cost $650,000 and that's higher than most of the country. How do people in other entry level positions make ends meet? How does the wage and benefit package at FedEx compare to most (not just one, i.e. UPS) companies for their entry level workers? I'm not saying it is good or bad, I'm just saying you should be asking yourself these questions and doing some research. If you don't see a wholesale elimination, then that somewhat confirms my suspicion that you're lacking in your research. Here's a quote from the New York Times: [I]Now, with the recent announcements of pension freezes by some of the cream of corporate America - [/I][URL="http://www.nytimes.com/redirect/marketwatch/redirect.ctx?MW=http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=VZ"][U][I]Verizon[/I][/U][/URL][I], Lockheed Martin, [/I][URL="http://www.nytimes.com/redirect/marketwatch/redirect.ctx?MW=http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=MEU"][U][I]Motorola[/I][/U][/URL][I] and, just last week, [/I][URL="http://www.nytimes.com/redirect/marketwatch/redirect.ctx?MW=http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/nyt-com/html-companyprofile.asp&symb=IBM"][U][I]I.B.M.[/I][/U][/URL][I] - the bell is tolling even louder. Even strong, stable companies with the means to operate a pension plan are facing longer worker lifespans, looming regulatory and accounting changes and, most important, heightened global competition. Some are deciding they either cannot, or will not, keep making the decades-long promises that a pension plan involves.[/I] But please don't take my word for it. I'm not here to tell you that you are right or wrong, I'm just encouraging you to be fully informed. Fair enough. However, if lack of pay = disgruntled employee = bad service, how will a customer be happy with DHL? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure their drivers don't make as much as FedEx's. So all things considered for you, it's still the best deal going otherwise you'd leave? And who cares how long it takes to top out? If top out pay was one cent more than your making now and you got that raise tomorrow would you be happy? Didn't think so. But you would be topped out. Again with the insults. Look, if you can't find credible evidence to show how I'd be better off, that's ok. As I've stated, for me things are a good deal. I would like to be paid more, who wouldn't? I've asked you to research the items that I feel you are mistaken about. I've asked you to be informed so that you can make an educated, not emotional decision. You accuse me of being a "sheeple", when you are doing exactly that and following those who believe unionizing would improve things but you've got some of your facts wrong. As I've said, if you feel that a union would help you, more power to you. I'm not going to insult you because you see things differently from me. Just be informed and remember, the moment you get a union, you start with nothing. Are you sure that they can negotiate a better overall environment for you? Without research and facts, you won't know. Be careful what you wish for as you just might get it. [/QUOTE]
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