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And the GOP finds a way to hurt the middle class, once again....!
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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 950022" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>TOS,</p><p></p><p>Do you believe a political party who strips away what you call a civil right, others would suggest a civil liberty and yet others would call it an individual right based on the idea of natural rights would be enough that any thinking person would logically have to conclude that such political party is counterproductive to freedom and thus anyone who votes for such would just be downright foolish in doing so?</p><p></p><p>Based on what you said above, could I conclude you'd agree with that point?</p><p></p><p>And BTW: I agree that to complain about wasteful spending by gov't and yet advocate the spending of taxpayer dollars on a plan that would in time be seen as nothing more than pissing directly into a fan and then complaining about why you are wet and smell so bad. The evidence suggests the money spent would be greater than the money saved but then in time market forces (yes people it's still a market too) would arise and methods around the testing would emerge to beat the tests. Then when the results show nobody on welfare is using drugs, what rabbit will you pull out of the hat to end welfare as you know? How is really making gov't bigger going to lead to a limted gov't in the end? Or is making gov't limited a self delusional position so that those who control the top and talking the rhetoric can bleed the whole system like a vampire? And truth be told, the same vampires control the other side of the isle too!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 950022, member: 2189"] TOS, Do you believe a political party who strips away what you call a civil right, others would suggest a civil liberty and yet others would call it an individual right based on the idea of natural rights would be enough that any thinking person would logically have to conclude that such political party is counterproductive to freedom and thus anyone who votes for such would just be downright foolish in doing so? Based on what you said above, could I conclude you'd agree with that point? And BTW: I agree that to complain about wasteful spending by gov't and yet advocate the spending of taxpayer dollars on a plan that would in time be seen as nothing more than pissing directly into a fan and then complaining about why you are wet and smell so bad. The evidence suggests the money spent would be greater than the money saved but then in time market forces (yes people it's still a market too) would arise and methods around the testing would emerge to beat the tests. Then when the results show nobody on welfare is using drugs, what rabbit will you pull out of the hat to end welfare as you know? How is really making gov't bigger going to lead to a limted gov't in the end? Or is making gov't limited a self delusional position so that those who control the top and talking the rhetoric can bleed the whole system like a vampire? And truth be told, the same vampires control the other side of the isle too! [/QUOTE]
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