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anonymous6
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in all fairness. i worked for non union companies for 25 years before this place. there are more jerk drivers here than all the other places combined.
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
They can see the writing on the wall, that their positions are going bye-bye in the future.
hellfire
no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
put a letter in,, they are desperate for punching bags, then, you tell us
I am pretty sure that no one is born into management at UPS.
If you make the decision to become management, and don't like it, do not come crying to me.
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I've watched many good hearted drivers become jerks thanks to the way we are treated.
balland chain
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There is a small recording device out there, I believe it is called a gum ball. I am purchasing one so the next time I am called a thief and dishonest, I will have the recording readily available when he claims he never said those things. I recommend all drivers have one to protect themselves and their job. All the company wants is to fire us and get some cheaper labor.
OptimusPrime
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Three kinds of UPS employees. Hard workers who just keep their head down. Typically go into driving/feeders. Second is very ambitious hard workers who want to make the world a better place. They get lured into management, then get tossed to the side. And lastly we have lazy asses. They jump at sup/management. Don't want to do messy hub work. And these are the useless we have dictating our day to day.
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oh yeah, i LOVE telling them that one day we'll come to work and it'll be like the Jetsons: our supervisor will be like Mr Spacely on the screen .He'll be managing the center from hundreds of miles away.
The day is soon coming when all of the dispatching is done from Atlanta,and there will be no FT on Car Supes,just OMS clerks
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it's illegal to record someone without their knowledge and consent. Management will fore you so quickly if they think you are doing so it'll make your head spin
Returntosender
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Depends on what state you reside in. Some laws as long as one party is aware of the recording its legal.
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
a former letter carrier in my center says the daily-BS there puts UPS to complete shame
TearsInRain
IE boogeyman
depends on the state actually
menotyou
bella amicizia
Linda Tripp was a God-send for me. In NY, it's a one party knowledge state.
I love this iPhone.
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
When my sups used to yell at me, I told them that only one man in this world was perfect, and they hung HIM on a cross !!
menotyou
bella amicizia
My sups hate having to discipline me. First, I don't bring cookies when I am mad. Second, I write rebuttal grievances that have every thing but the kitchen sink in them. Printouts, charts, graphs, what ever I need. I get them so twisted up, they just as soon get me back on my truck and out of the building.
TxRoadDawg
Well-Known Member
too much legal ****, besides anyone with good working knowledge of a computer could alter and edit a tape to suit their needs. as for attitudes, the only thing I want is to be left the hell alone to do my job, how badly anyone else fuks up is irrelevant so long as I dont have to smell it. I gave up long ago on the idea of merit being relevant to ups.
curiousbrain
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In my brief stay so far at this amusement park that is UPS, I've encountered two variants of management. I'm fairly sure we can all agree that management is (for the most part) treated in a less-than-stellar way. I think the difference in people lies in how they deal with that treatment.
The first kind lacks any filter, and when they get an intense beating, they immediately turn around and beat their subordinates as badly as they just were; and, they draw no distinction between management and hourly when having a fit, it's just hot molten crazy in all directions.
The second kind is a filter, and when they get an intense beating, they try to extract the thesis of the beating, and relay that in a way their subordinates can understand; and, they recognize that the responsibilities of management and hourly are different. As such, when they have a fit, it is structured at the target audience they are talking to - management or hourly.
I met a few of the second kind, and lots of the first. But, the theory about jerks is that they procreate at unreasonable rates, and so there is bound to be more of them. Although, that's probably a topic for another thread.
The first kind lacks any filter, and when they get an intense beating, they immediately turn around and beat their subordinates as badly as they just were; and, they draw no distinction between management and hourly when having a fit, it's just hot molten crazy in all directions.
The second kind is a filter, and when they get an intense beating, they try to extract the thesis of the beating, and relay that in a way their subordinates can understand; and, they recognize that the responsibilities of management and hourly are different. As such, when they have a fit, it is structured at the target audience they are talking to - management or hourly.
I met a few of the second kind, and lots of the first. But, the theory about jerks is that they procreate at unreasonable rates, and so there is bound to be more of them. Although, that's probably a topic for another thread.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Risk management and especially the effects of unintended consequences.
Our society is filled with so much low lifers that look for any reason to sue someone or a company to get something they did not work for.
Take for instance, the picture of a management person not wearing a seat belt that someone posted here.
That could be used in a lawsuit against UPS as evidence that a management person (to some extent representing UPS) works in an unsafe way.
That could be used to imply that UPS does not care about safety.
So essentially the same reason UPS has all these Keter programs and audits. To show in court that UPA cares and takes measures to ensure a safe work place.
That is just the safety angle ... there are dozens and dozens of other angles.
It's the nature of the society and government in which we all co-exist.
Sure the hell ain't puurfect!
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