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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 265662" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>When they succeed?</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" /></p><p> </p><p>I don't celebrate Christmas or for that fact any other religious holiday so I don't care one way or the other. However, I am opposed to any entity, especially gov't or people in groups attempting to use gov't for coercive means, telling someone else whether they can or can't celebrate in a non-violent, non-forceful religious celebration. </p><p> </p><p>We never celebrated Christmas and my kids from day one have known of the commercialism and the Coca-Cola Santa Klaus creation but we've never done anything to "spoil the fun" for others. They aren't harming me so I have no right to interfer. It's become a kinda inside family joke that when others learn of what we believe or I should say don't practice the first question is, "are you jewish?" and we just always say yes if that makes it easier for them to understand. No offense to those of you of the jewish faith either. I can relate at times what you must go through during the holiday season. </p><p> </p><p>That said however, these folks looking to destroy societal religious customs at every turn should get over it and move on in life. </p><p>The first amendment goes both ways IMO that is protects from religion as much as it protects the individula's practice thereof when it comes to religion. </p><p> </p><p>And let me say this to you Big, just because a group of men who manipulated the political scene of the day and were able to displace local pagan customs and in effect Christianize them doesn't make it dogmatic with biblical edict or law. Christmas is as much a creation of man's fancy as it is the fancy of some men today to eliminate it from all practice. </p><p> </p><p>Love the Lord God with all thy heart and Love thy neighbor as thyself are eternal precepts but Christmas IMO by no means even comes close to that same level of standing. My guess is that if we all followed that eternal precept, this concern over Christmas would be nowhere to be found as would a lot of the ills we face in our day. Maybe instead of worrying so much about someone taking away our Santa Klaus we should be worried about how far <span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>we all</strong></span> fall short of living up to those words of Jesus. I wonder which one Jesus would feel to be most important? From what I read of the Bible, I think I know that answer and in your heart so do you.</p><p> </p><p>I'll stand with you to defend your right to observe a Christianized Pagan practice but let's keep our eye on the ball in this game of life.</p><p> </p><p>JMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 265662, member: 2189"] When they succeed? :wink: I don't celebrate Christmas or for that fact any other religious holiday so I don't care one way or the other. However, I am opposed to any entity, especially gov't or people in groups attempting to use gov't for coercive means, telling someone else whether they can or can't celebrate in a non-violent, non-forceful religious celebration. We never celebrated Christmas and my kids from day one have known of the commercialism and the Coca-Cola Santa Klaus creation but we've never done anything to "spoil the fun" for others. They aren't harming me so I have no right to interfer. It's become a kinda inside family joke that when others learn of what we believe or I should say don't practice the first question is, "are you jewish?" and we just always say yes if that makes it easier for them to understand. No offense to those of you of the jewish faith either. I can relate at times what you must go through during the holiday season. That said however, these folks looking to destroy societal religious customs at every turn should get over it and move on in life. The first amendment goes both ways IMO that is protects from religion as much as it protects the individula's practice thereof when it comes to religion. And let me say this to you Big, just because a group of men who manipulated the political scene of the day and were able to displace local pagan customs and in effect Christianize them doesn't make it dogmatic with biblical edict or law. Christmas is as much a creation of man's fancy as it is the fancy of some men today to eliminate it from all practice. Love the Lord God with all thy heart and Love thy neighbor as thyself are eternal precepts but Christmas IMO by no means even comes close to that same level of standing. My guess is that if we all followed that eternal precept, this concern over Christmas would be nowhere to be found as would a lot of the ills we face in our day. Maybe instead of worrying so much about someone taking away our Santa Klaus we should be worried about how far [SIZE=3][B]we all[/B][/SIZE] fall short of living up to those words of Jesus. I wonder which one Jesus would feel to be most important? From what I read of the Bible, I think I know that answer and in your heart so do you. I'll stand with you to defend your right to observe a Christianized Pagan practice but let's keep our eye on the ball in this game of life. JMHO. [/QUOTE]
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