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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 266863" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p>You probably should read that article again. Noone is banning x-mas or x-mas decorations. The ban is on overtly religious displays in the common area of a HUD facility, which is entirely appropriate. The same people making a fuss about this would be screaming bloody murder if a muslim resident wanted to put up any religious displays in that same common area during Ramadan.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I generally agree with you here, but it sounds like you think you are arguing with me.</p><p></p><p>Read the pledge. It really doesn't teach anything else. It's not a pledge of allegiance to a set of principles, or a moral code, or anything like that. It's a pledge of loyalty to a flag and a country, that's all. *edit* Well, it does reference "liberty and justice for all", which is good. Now that I think about it I might be open to a pledge that did focus more on principles and not so much on flag and country. It would be a good starting point for a class on civic duty.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I addressed this in my previous post:</p><p></p><p>To put in another way, teachers should teach whatever subject matter they are supposed to teach (math, english, history, all that stuff). Parents should teach what they (hopefully)always have, right from wrong, don't hit , share your toys, always say "please", "thank you", and "you're welcome". You know, basic morality and the foundations of good citizenship.</p><p></p><p>If our nation is worthy of loyalty and respect (and I think it is), then loyalty and respect is what it will get. We don't need to indoctrinate our kids to ensure that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 266863, member: 4805"] You probably should read that article again. Noone is banning x-mas or x-mas decorations. The ban is on overtly religious displays in the common area of a HUD facility, which is entirely appropriate. The same people making a fuss about this would be screaming bloody murder if a muslim resident wanted to put up any religious displays in that same common area during Ramadan. I generally agree with you here, but it sounds like you think you are arguing with me. Read the pledge. It really doesn't teach anything else. It's not a pledge of allegiance to a set of principles, or a moral code, or anything like that. It's a pledge of loyalty to a flag and a country, that's all. *edit* Well, it does reference "liberty and justice for all", which is good. Now that I think about it I might be open to a pledge that did focus more on principles and not so much on flag and country. It would be a good starting point for a class on civic duty. I addressed this in my previous post: To put in another way, teachers should teach whatever subject matter they are supposed to teach (math, english, history, all that stuff). Parents should teach what they (hopefully)always have, right from wrong, don't hit , share your toys, always say "please", "thank you", and "you're welcome". You know, basic morality and the foundations of good citizenship. If our nation is worthy of loyalty and respect (and I think it is), then loyalty and respect is what it will get. We don't need to indoctrinate our kids to ensure that. [/QUOTE]
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