Are other Union Members this disgruntled?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by bowhnterdon, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Looking at FB, it is hard to deny that many,many Teamsters are upset with the current representation. You don’t see DuPont,PM or even CWA have groups that are so displeased with their Union. BUG, Tony Q, you guys to follow and endorse everything Junior and DT do. Why? What we get paid? BS. Just look at the past UPS quarter...
  2. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    I don’t think BUG has said one way or other if he supports the contract or not. It’s his business. I am however sick of the bombardment of yet another flyer trying to convince part timers that they are stupid. All the people making 13ish or more are just getting hosed. IMO
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  3. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    It is his business. He also makes his business to belittle anyone with a negative view of this disgraceful Administration
  4. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Ups is big on this agreement. Nuff said..
  5. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Absolutely correct.

    In fact.... I've pointed out my reasons for not doing so, several times.

    We haven't seen the totality of the agreement yet.

    Changes in the supplements and Local riders, can have a huge impact.

    When I see some of the baseless accusations, and uniformed "interpretations" of the

    Master language.... it just makes me shake my head. Just because I question some posters

    statements and ideas about their understanding of the contract in general, is in no way

    an endorsement or rejection of the proposed agreement.

  6. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    If you mean, challenging people to get off their duff and get involved.... Yep.
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  7. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Vote no has 20,000 members. I would say members are getting involved
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  8. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    What else do you need to see in the Master? Is there something else?
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    The FaceBook page ?


    That's the nexus, of the uninformed.

    Look at me.... I've got a smart phone.

    And their phone, is smarter than them. :biggrin:

    Ha !

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  10. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    Assuming all 20k are ups hourlies... not ups freight or other supporters... that’s only about 8% of the teamster represented ups employees.
  11. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Thanks. You proved my point. If you aren’t on board with the current IBT, you are stupid
  12. DOK

    DOK Well-Known Member

    Gonna be honest, a lot of the work force is uninformed. Talked to a low seniority driver about the contract today, he was only worried about when we’d receive a retro check.
  13. Sounds about right...
    That's why we need penalty pay when we go past the deadline.
  14. mikejonesjr

    mikejonesjr Active Member

    Only 70000 voted last time. If part of that 20000 are no votes who otherwise wouldn't have voted or would have voted yes, then this proposal won't pass
  15. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    . Well?
  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Numbers don't lie....

    You've proved my point.

    I haven't called anyone stupid....

  17. Yet?
  18. bowhnterdon

    bowhnterdon Active Member

    Yet, the implication is clearly there...
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    When have I ever ?

    @bowhnterdon is just having fun while imbibing.

    No harm.... No foul.
  20. I'm just throwing a few logs on the fire.