Are you smarter then a twilight sort manager?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by EmraldArcher, Jun 17, 2014.

  1. EmraldArcher

    EmraldArcher Member

    An employee, let's call him Keith, walks into the hub for his twilight shift and the sort manager, Tim, happens to be standing there.

    Tim tells Keith (who is the most senior employee on his PD) that he is going to be working in the unload tonight. Keith informs him that he has seniority and would prefer to remain on his PD. Tim says that if Keith doesn't immediately report to the unload he will be fired for failing to work as directed.

    Keith simply laughs and walks away.

    What did Keith find so funny?
  2. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

  3. EmraldArcher

    EmraldArcher Member

    Why was Tim's threat to fire Keith so ludicrously funny?
  4. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Keith needs to learn to work as directed and grieve later.
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  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Yeah I was thinking he won't be laughing when he's fired for not working as directed.

    Unless of course this was Keith's last day or something.
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  6. EmraldArcher

    EmraldArcher Member

    Alternately, Tim should realize you can't fire someone for failing to work as directed when they're not actually on the clock.
  7. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    I was under the assumption that Keith wouldn't be speaking to management unless he was on the clock.
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  8. EmraldArcher

    EmraldArcher Member

    Haha good point.
  9. Ouch

    Ouch Well-Known Member

    Why is it the employee has to learn to work as directed and the stupid sup can't learn seniority rules. Ask from the top, force from the bottom. A grievance would be in order if in fact he worked as directed.
  10. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Because that's how it's done. Feel free to speak to your BA about it.
  11. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    It's time for bed the IQ seems to drop later into the night.
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  12. retiredTxfeeder

    retiredTxfeeder cap'n crunch

    My thought here is that an hourly employee will NEVER be smarter than a management person. If you don't believe me, just ask one of them. pssssst. management may not always be smarter, but they *do* have the power to hire and fire.
  13. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    It's Happy Hour and Jr Steward time.
  14. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Tim is allowed to say "When you start report to this area".
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  15. Tell Tim that you are choosing a layoff rather than do another job. See what he does then.

    File early, file often.
  16. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Tim says " That's not an option on the table. We're short in that area. Report to it or report to the office for resignation".
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Work as directed then grieve.
  18. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    There's nothing wrong in playing the game. But you have to know how to play it.

    In a terminable situation you do not see how far you can pee.
  19. Gumby

    Gumby *

    This sounds like a Dick and Jane book!
  20. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Is a twilight sort manager smarter than a 5th grader?