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Message: <blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 741668" data-attributes="member: 13254">First of all I want to say that there is no excuse for anyone to be beaten to death. IMO, a full investigation should follow by any US law enforcement agency other than ICE (as I understand it, ICE agents are the accused) and appropriate action taken. This video is horrible, I could not tell anything about what it was supposed to be capturing. The dark figures at the back of the car are nothing more than blobs, no one could tell who was who or what was going on. If you saw this without any description given, you would have no idea what was happening. Very inconclusive proof of anything. You mention flawless laws need to be written, keep dreaming, people write laws and people are not flawless as well as the people that enforce laws. Are you aware that there are laws to punish wrong doers, even if they are LEOs? OH, and please don't say that it will never happen. Maybe you should become a Senator and then you can take a crack at writing a flawless law. In no post I have put up on this subject have I indicated that I thought this kind of alleged treatment was justified. But just from what I read on one article concerning this incident, a few facts were clear. One, Anastasio Hernandez Rojas (the deceased) was in the US illegally and had already been deported once. In other words, he was not supposed to be here and had no right to be here. Two, the article said he worked in construction when he was here illegally. To work here for all the years that he was getting by with his illegal presence, he probably was paying taxes, or getting paid cash under the table. Either way he was breaking other laws. If being paid cash, he was paying no taxes, illegaly. If not cash, he was using a fake SS# that belongs to someone else, illegally. To summarize, this man was a criminal, no denying that fact.  I doubt the agents involved just yanked him out of the car and started beating him, he probably resisted arrest which brought about more aggressive actions by the agents. It is clear this man, Anastasio Hernandez Rojas, is partially responsible for his own death. In no way am I saying beating someone to death is justified, however, as you said, it is still under investigation.  </blockquote>

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