"As long as work is available"

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by DoYouEvenLift, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. DoYouEvenLift

    DoYouEvenLift Member

    Remember... if you cross the picket line you will get your ass beat.

    West Coast
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  2. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    What picket line?
  3. DoYouEvenLift

    DoYouEvenLift Member

    The one that will happen if this :censored2: contract isn't changed.

    This contract :censored2:s part timers, it :censored2:s full timers and it :censored2:s future hires. It's amazing how they managed to get it wrong for every single demographic of Teamster.
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  4. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    But the IBT and the company say it's such a great contract, why would anyone not like it........
  5. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    It’s not just great, it’s “the best contract ever”
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  6. DoYouEvenLift

    DoYouEvenLift Member

    I can't believe they can say it with a straight face...

    Being paid off tens of thousands probably helps
  7. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    The part that sucks is that so many people are uninformed and simply go off of what others tell them instead of doing the research themselves that they'll just vote however the union representatives and leadership in their building tells them to vote...and if those people are being told to sell the contract as a good one then people will vote "yes" on that basis alone.

    I'm a steward in a building where I'm spreading the "no" vote on the basis of no catch-up raises for part-timers among other things. I've been doing so for a while now. However, another steward actually was going around telling them they WILL get a catch-up raise, and one of the employees immediately questioned me about it, telling me "Why'd you tell us we wouldn't get a catch-up raise?" as if I was the one who was lying! It was quite the insult!
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  8. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    It's not just "The Best Contract Ever", it's "The Greatest Contract Since Sliced Bread! (TM)"
  9. john chesney

    john chesney Well-Known Member

    You’re going to get this contract one way or another. The pathetic leadership we have will never strike ups. They may change a couple minor things if voted down. This contract is bad news. UPS is going to abuse this 22.4 thing to the max
  10. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    Always ask them to show you in the language where it says that.
  11. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    Sorry, my bad!!! :strikesmileys:
  12. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    Article XII, Section 6, will probably be used in some way to ratify this contract regardless. It was used last time around...

    This time Hoffa will probably say "If the contract proposal will keep the company competitive and the membership repeatedly votes "no" on the NMA, the national negotiating committee shall have the power to ratify the contract regardless of the vote of the membership."
  13. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    Funny thing is I asked him that. He said he's getting his information straight from the business agent who is part of the negotiating committee. I said I don't go off of what ANYONE tells me, I read the information myself.
  14. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    Exactly, tell them to remember these things and write it down, so when he discovers it’s a lie, he will remember who screwed him over.
  15. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain IE boogeyman

    they can push it through even with no votes?

    hahahahaha why even have a union that’s completely broken
  16. Superteeth2478

    Superteeth2478 Active Member

    That's kind of what they did last time around with the holdout locals who were voting down their supplementals...created new language using Article XII, Section 6 of the IBT Constitution. I'm just wondering what specific language they'll use this time around to pass the contract when they invoke Article XII, Section 6.

    And yes, Article XII, Section 6 is broken. It's like God Mode for the president of the IBT.
  17. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    To push a local through is one thing, not that it was right by any means. But to push a national through, no matter what percentage of the membership voted, that gets voted down would be insanity.
  18. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    I bet our crooked union leaders are walking away with AT LEAST 6 figure deals from Ups! Ups will save millions if this :censored2: contract is pushed through so Ups will have no problem bribing our pusillanimous ass leaders 6 figures.
  19. Brown Legend

    Brown Legend New Member

    Of course it's one big payoff! UPS knows our union is weak and greedy. Their getting millions from these concession and where going to get new fans in our trucks to blow around 100 degree air in the summer and 0 degree temps in the winter! Yippee!
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  20. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    Do you believe a used car salesman that says
    "Trust me!"