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<blockquote data-quote="moldsporh" data-source="post: 6139247" data-attributes="member: 54834"><p>Hey man.....I'm on your side FWIW.</p><p></p><p>That was about a year ago we looked into the capabilities of the device. I figured the term "intel" was enough for others, but in this case for you to decipher that but I assumed wrong. Maybe I should have used the phrase...."we researched the capabilities of Lytx". Sorry about that.</p><p></p><p>I'm not in a tizzy...lol. I don't gaf. With what's common knowledge, I'm starting to believe you are a little naive about these things.</p><p></p><p>I have already mentioned this but you have seem to forgotten. The device I can agree "DOES NOT RECORD VIDEO" Are you going to forget this again for later??</p><p></p><p>Perhaps you are ignorant to how electronics work, if so, there's nothing wrong with that.</p><p></p><p>I've already shown you that there is a digital sensor behind the lens, so for those who aren't versed in electronics, that's a camera, doesn't mean it has to "record" to operate, "recording" is taking the data received and sending it to a storage media. The ability to "monitor" is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.</p><p></p><p>When you hold your cellphone to take a pic, or a video, before you press the button for a pic, or begin recording a video...what do you see? You see the live action on your screen, people moving around, that's called "live view" and lets you compose the shot. Lytx does the same but now the device itself doesn't "record" based on the statement from Lytx. What Lytx sees is compared to stored images and alerts of distracted behavior.</p><p></p><p>Where you seem to be confused is what I agree with and what I care about.</p><p></p><p>1) I don't care. This was brought to topic over seeing a recent mention in this thread, and my friend is going into sleepers, so I was making awareness to something I believe is a breach of contract. "No inside facing cameras"</p><p></p><p>2) We have had these now for awhile, and virtually no discipline has been handed down by inside cameras. Why do you think I don't realize this?</p><p></p><p>3) If you paid millions to have this system installed in your fleet, would you remove the ability to see what the cameras see at your will if the capability was available? </p><p></p><p>Fact is, UPS will not disclose this if they could because it would be an admission of guilt, so a 3rd party is used. This is where I believe some may be naive about the capabilities....just my opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So again, for the record.....again. I know the device doesn’t "record" but if you think the camera is disabled you are ignorant to how these work, otherwise you would would not hear about distracted behavior. </p><p></p><p>They aren't likely going anywhere, and again, I don't care either way.</p><p></p><p>If there is a live view which we and you won't know about, if facing an area of privacy would be an issue. Other OTR truckers likely agree to them by contract before hire so not much recourse.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, glad I amused you...lol. I was just making awareness and adding to the conversation, but for some reason you think I'm upset and unable to comprehend they aren't going anywhere.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="moldsporh, post: 6139247, member: 54834"] Hey man.....I'm on your side FWIW. That was about a year ago we looked into the capabilities of the device. I figured the term "intel" was enough for others, but in this case for you to decipher that but I assumed wrong. Maybe I should have used the phrase...."we researched the capabilities of Lytx". Sorry about that. I'm not in a tizzy...lol. I don't gaf. With what's common knowledge, I'm starting to believe you are a little naive about these things. I have already mentioned this but you have seem to forgotten. The device I can agree "DOES NOT RECORD VIDEO" Are you going to forget this again for later?? Perhaps you are ignorant to how electronics work, if so, there's nothing wrong with that. I've already shown you that there is a digital sensor behind the lens, so for those who aren't versed in electronics, that's a camera, doesn't mean it has to "record" to operate, "recording" is taking the data received and sending it to a storage media. The ability to "monitor" is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. When you hold your cellphone to take a pic, or a video, before you press the button for a pic, or begin recording a video...what do you see? You see the live action on your screen, people moving around, that's called "live view" and lets you compose the shot. Lytx does the same but now the device itself doesn't "record" based on the statement from Lytx. What Lytx sees is compared to stored images and alerts of distracted behavior. Where you seem to be confused is what I agree with and what I care about. 1) I don't care. This was brought to topic over seeing a recent mention in this thread, and my friend is going into sleepers, so I was making awareness to something I believe is a breach of contract. "No inside facing cameras" 2) We have had these now for awhile, and virtually no discipline has been handed down by inside cameras. Why do you think I don't realize this? 3) If you paid millions to have this system installed in your fleet, would you remove the ability to see what the cameras see at your will if the capability was available? Fact is, UPS will not disclose this if they could because it would be an admission of guilt, so a 3rd party is used. This is where I believe some may be naive about the capabilities....just my opinion. So again, for the record.....again. I know the device doesn’t "record" but if you think the camera is disabled you are ignorant to how these work, otherwise you would would not hear about distracted behavior. They aren't likely going anywhere, and again, I don't care either way. If there is a live view which we and you won't know about, if facing an area of privacy would be an issue. Other OTR truckers likely agree to them by contract before hire so not much recourse. Anyway, glad I amused you...lol. I was just making awareness and adding to the conversation, but for some reason you think I'm upset and unable to comprehend they aren't going anywhere. [/QUOTE]
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