Asked to clock back in after sort hours.

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Congee, Oct 25, 2015.

  1. Congee

    Congee New Member

    This Friday I worked 4-9am on local sort. I was then asked after clocking out to clock back in because the supervisor forgot about package cars being outside needing unloaded. A feeder driver told me that I should look into my contract but I never was given a union book or anything. They said in their contract that someone made away big with a grievance they filed over clocking back in. Can they do that??
  2. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    Local Sort 4-9AM?
  3. Congee

    Congee New Member

    Pm auto correct likes to put am a lot for some reason
  4. Bagels

    Bagels Family Leave Fridays!!!

    I'm betting this is another troll thread...
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Can they force you to clock back in? No but you said that they asked you.

    Supervisors are human and they do make mistakes. Pickups have to make the feeders before they pull and if you are the only unloader left then you will be asked to stay.
  6. McGee

    McGee Well-Known Member

    I was gonna ask the same thing....
  7. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    After exhausting all alternatives the Union would allow management to perform hourly work. So either you can walk away from the extra work and give the work to your PT sups or make the extra pay yourself.
  8. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    I would punch back in and work real slow.
  9. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Or punch back in and watch the sups work. You could even give them advice on how they should work faster.
  10. HubBub

    HubBub Active Member

    This company is all about politics/leverage etc. If it was me I'd help bail the sup out but make sure he knew I wasn't happy and that he owed me one. That's one of the keys to keeping management off your back.
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  11. Number24

    Number24 #24

    Once you're punched out you're punched out(.)
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  12. MendozaJ

    MendozaJ Active Member

    If you were asked then it was your option. Make sure you are paid accordingly.
  13. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    NO they can't make you punch back in. Once you punch out your done if they asked you if you wanted to punch back in because they had more work then they gave you the option to or not to that's one thing. However if they told you to punch back in I would have kept on walking.
  14. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    This might be a dumb question.

    If he was told he had to punch back in could he say it's a 6th punch and get OT?
    Just curious.
  15. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    No. The second timecard wouldn't go through by itself, they would have to be manually merged.
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  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

  17. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Which is why a lot of PT UPS employees would be reluctant to go back after punching out for the day. You never know if you will be paid for all hours worked. Not saying it is a conspiracy just requires more work for PT and FT sups to manage when all they want to do is go home. Plus if the Union employees don't like it all they have to do is file a grievance to be paid right is management thinking.
  18. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    If something like that were to happen I would just ask them to work and show them me physically changing their end time so there is no doubt.

    Forgetting a trailer would have been my fault. The only one who should get hit for it is me.
  19. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    You work at a small Center where you have your employees trust. Larger Hubs and Centers employees times get lost in the crises of the moment. A couple times when that happens you lose all trust in your management team and believe it is all "part of the Plan".
  20. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I am curious though. I understand you can make his 2 time cards 1 but is that the right thing?

    I believe you frigid but wondering if a shop steward would agree.

    Because if let's say I was forced to punch back in after I had expressed I don't want to. My original shift is technically over and done I believe. The amount of time that has elapsed between shifts I don't believe should matter.

    If this issue was pressed I wonder what the outcome would be. Of course it depends on the local and rider I'm sure.