# At UPS, the Algorithm Is the Driver

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Returntosender, Feb 17, 2015.

1. ### ReturntosenderWell-Known Member

TIMONIUM, Md.—Here’s a math problem for you. Each United Parcel Service Inc. driver makes an average of 120 stops per day. There are 6,689,502,913,449,135,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 alternatives for ordering those stops. Which option is the most efficient, after considering variables such as special delivery times, road regulations, and the existence of private roads that don’t appear on a map?

UPS engineers are already enhancing Orion so it will update delivery schedules while drivers are on the road, useful in a situation in which a driver might abandon Orion’s instructions because of an unexpected road closure due to an accident, but want to resume using Orion later in the day. Upcoming versions also will include turn-by-turn driving instructions—not yet part of the system.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/at-ups-the-algorithm-is-the-driver-1424136536

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2. ### scratchLeast Best ModeratorStaff Member

We are about to go on ORION and one of the team members said that if you look at ten different delivery addresses, there are over a million different combinations as to what order you could run them.

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3. ### JohneyWell-Known Member

Well alrighty then.

4. ### oldngraynowhere special

That is compared to where an experienced driver could immediately discard 99.9% of the possibilities leaving so few options you could count them on one hand.

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5. ### Brownslave688You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

And maybe 2-3 that make any damn sense.

This is the problem. My brain doesn't see the billions of options and decide between them. It's sees the handful that make a shred of sense and decides between them.

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Great minds.

7. ### upschuckWell-Known Member

3,628,800 to be exact, and I bet they pick the solution in the lower half on how to run it.

8. ### JohneyWell-Known Member

Of course, but that's where it becomes a problem. What you know is the best option is in the bottom 10% of Orion decisions and will generate a bad report for you.

9. ### Monkey ButtDark Prince of Double StandardsStaff Member

Maybe 3 for a human.
Artificial Intelligence will have to mature quite a bit before the residential or rural driver can be approached by ORION.

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10. ### Monkey ButtDark Prince of Double StandardsStaff Member

or 99.995% or more

11. ### gman042Been around the block a few times

No, there really isn't. There is only one way. The way a driver delivered it using his area knowledge and common sense.

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12. ### TooTechieGeek in Brown

Wouldn't it be 100? 10 squared?

13. ### Brownslave688You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

No

10x9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2=

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14. ### onehandsoloActive Member

That's the same thing they told us a year ago when my center started it. Overall Orion works on about half of the routes, but it still has a lot of bugs on those routes and does not give you enough time to deliver most stops. I cannot remember the last time a sup a broached me about not meeting my Orion numbers.

15. ### novadriverActive Member

pass by 20 stops to do one stop than drive past another 10 to do the 20 you drove by earlier to.... you get the picture. ODO time

16. ### BigUnionGuyGot the T-Shirt

Hi

I am Orion.... and just here to help.

-Bug-

17. ### Overpaid Union ThugWell-Known Member

Maybe that's the problem.They are over thinking the job. And paying (wasting) allot of money in doing it.

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18. ### jakertrolling

Orion wouldn't be bad if they could figure out how to make it see high low odd even

Orion has potential to be a really good system. It just isn't quite there yet. They need to program it to save time AND miles for it to save any real money. Saving 5 miles a route everyday is good. But who cares if you are paying a top rate driver an hour of overtime to save those 5 miles. You're canceling any gains you may have made saving those miles and then some.

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