At UPS, the Algorithm Is the Driver

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Returntosender, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    TIMONIUM, Md.—Here’s a math problem for you. Each United Parcel Service Inc. driver makes an average of 120 stops per day. There are 6,689,502,913,449,135,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 alternatives for ordering those stops. Which option is the most efficient, after considering variables such as special delivery times, road regulations, and the existence of private roads that don’t appear on a map?

    UPS engineers are already enhancing Orion so it will update delivery schedules while drivers are on the road, useful in a situation in which a driver might abandon Orion’s instructions because of an unexpected road closure due to an accident, but want to resume using Orion later in the day. Upcoming versions also will include turn-by-turn driving instructions—not yet part of the system.
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  2. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    We are about to go on ORION and one of the team members said that if you look at ten different delivery addresses, there are over a million different combinations as to what order you could run them.
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  3. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    Well alrighty then.
  4. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    That is compared to where an experienced driver could immediately discard 99.9% of the possibilities leaving so few options you could count them on one hand.
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  5. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    And maybe 2-3 that make any damn sense.

    This is the problem. My brain doesn't see the billions of options and decide between them. It's sees the handful that make a shred of sense and decides between them.
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  6. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Great minds.
  7. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    3,628,800 to be exact, and I bet they pick the solution in the lower half on how to run it.
  8. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    Of course, but that's where it becomes a problem. What you know is the best option is in the bottom 10% of Orion decisions and will generate a bad report for you.
  9. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Maybe 3 for a human.
    Artificial Intelligence will have to mature quite a bit before the residential or rural driver can be approached by ORION.
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  10. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    or 99.995% or more
  11. gman042

    gman042 Been around the block a few times

    No, there really isn't. There is only one way. The way a driver delivered it using his area knowledge and common sense.
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  12. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    Wouldn't it be 100? 10 squared?
  13. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.


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  14. onehandsolo

    onehandsolo Active Member

    That's the same thing they told us a year ago when my center started it. Overall Orion works on about half of the routes, but it still has a lot of bugs on those routes and does not give you enough time to deliver most stops. I cannot remember the last time a sup a broached me about not meeting my Orion numbers.
  15. novadriver

    novadriver Active Member

    pass by 20 stops to do one stop than drive past another 10 to do the 20 you drove by earlier to.... you get the picture. ODO time
  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    I am Orion.... and just here to help. :biggrin:

  17. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Maybe that's the problem.They are over thinking the job. And paying (wasting) allot of money in doing it.
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  18. jaker

    jaker trolling

    Orion wouldn't be bad if they could figure out how to make it see high low odd even
  19. Orion has potential to be a really good system. It just isn't quite there yet. They need to program it to save time AND miles for it to save any real money. Saving 5 miles a route everyday is good. But who cares if you are paying a top rate driver an hour of overtime to save those 5 miles. You're canceling any gains you may have made saving those miles and then some.
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  20. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member