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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 591794" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: red"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/08/28/DI2009082801337.html" target="_blank">One Year After Crisis, "Too Big to Fail" Banks Have Grown Even Bigger</a></span></span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2009/08/28/GR2009082800426.html?sid=ST2009082800437" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">The Big Get Bigger</span></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2009/08/28/the_fdics_cupboard_is_very_bare_97379.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">FDIC Cupboard Very Bare</span></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/quinn/2009/0825.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Some Reasons the Federal Reserve Should End</span></a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/SeanMaloneRiseFallDollarLarge.jpg" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Rise and Fall of the Dollar: 1800 to 2009</span></a></p><p></p><p>At that last link, it should be obvious the steady drop of the dollar over the 20th century and during that same time period as I've posted this before, <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001519.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">here</span></a> is a comparison of how many current dollars over time it would take to equal the value of a single $1 in 1913' when the quasi-gov't/actually private Fed was created. If the 20th century picture being true with a central bank and the quite opposite effect in the 19th century without a central bank minus 2 periods of war (2 avoidable wars I might add) then one has to also ask this question IMO.</p><p></p><p>In the 19th century, the dollars value over time went up to where a single dollar had the purchasing power of $2 dollars in goods and services. In other words, prices actually fell as true efficencies in the market were allowed to be enjoyed by the people who purchased such goods and services. Workers were never chasing a raise to maintain a standard of wealth because with natural market deflation with an honest monetary system automatically increased their wealth and purchasing power. Going to that last link I posted look at the value of a dollar in 2008' to the 1913' and imagine if you will that over a period of time, you pay stayed the same but prices fell to the point of what they were in 1985'. How many of us would love to go to 1985' but make the same wage or salary that we do today? Our wages and salaries don't go up in true value but are in fact chasing an ever declining dollar trying to maintain a standard of wealth and living. Those on fixed income or the poor benefitted because the goal line was never moving away but rather always sliding down to them making it easier to move out from such conditions if one put the least bit of effort into it. But then how does such a natural economic occurrance from an honest monetary system benefit or empower those who seek power and wish to do so by exploiting the mal-conditions of others? Be hard wouldn't it. In order to do that, you'd need an economic and monetary system that creates such conditions in order to manipulate and benefit from in the first place.</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/surprise.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":surprise:" title="Surprise :surprise:" data-shortname=":surprise:" /></p><p></p><p>But around the turn of the century and the Spanish American War, a <a href="http://mises.org/story/364" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">major paradigm shift</span> </a>in America was taking place and we've never looked back on our roller coaster ride down to the point now that the dollar is worth less than a nickle. We're at the bottom people, we can't go that much further. And here's another question for your. Granted compared to today 19th century healthcare was not the best but in it's time of an ever stronger increasing value dollar, what do you think the cost of healthcare at that time was doing? Again, the reverse being true, what are healthcare costs doing today?</p><p></p><p>Are we being played for a fool?</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/surprised.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":surprised:" title="Surprised :surprised:" data-shortname=":surprised:" /></p><p></p><p>Ironically the progressive movement was as much a <a href="http://mises.org/story/1259" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">religious one</span></a> or at least heavily driven and I guess it goes back to our European heritage of being tossed to and fro by religious forces interwined with the State in order to protect the <strong>"Dark Con of Man!"</strong></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p></p><p>As Rothbard pointed out as to immigration from Europe, this was also a focus by <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100109093244/http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~eagleton/e-gov/e-politicalarchive-Progressive.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">others</span></a> on the subject so it would seem the issue of immigration has long been a keystone of advancing and growing gov't as well.</p><p></p><p>Let's build a wall so we can't leav.....uh keep the nasty immigrants out!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 591794, member: 2189"] [B][SIZE=2][COLOR=red][URL='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/08/28/DI2009082801337.html']One Year After Crisis, "Too Big to Fail" Banks Have Grown Even Bigger[/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [URL='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2009/08/28/GR2009082800426.html?sid=ST2009082800437'][COLOR=red]The Big Get Bigger[/COLOR][/URL] [URL='http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2009/08/28/the_fdics_cupboard_is_very_bare_97379.html'][COLOR=red]FDIC Cupboard Very Bare[/COLOR][/URL] [URL='http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/quinn/2009/0825.html'][COLOR=red]Some Reasons the Federal Reserve Should End[/COLOR][/URL] [URL='http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/SeanMaloneRiseFallDollarLarge.jpg'][COLOR=red]Rise and Fall of the Dollar: 1800 to 2009[/COLOR][/URL] At that last link, it should be obvious the steady drop of the dollar over the 20th century and during that same time period as I've posted this before, [URL='http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001519.html'][COLOR=red]here[/COLOR][/URL] is a comparison of how many current dollars over time it would take to equal the value of a single $1 in 1913' when the quasi-gov't/actually private Fed was created. If the 20th century picture being true with a central bank and the quite opposite effect in the 19th century without a central bank minus 2 periods of war (2 avoidable wars I might add) then one has to also ask this question IMO. In the 19th century, the dollars value over time went up to where a single dollar had the purchasing power of $2 dollars in goods and services. In other words, prices actually fell as true efficencies in the market were allowed to be enjoyed by the people who purchased such goods and services. Workers were never chasing a raise to maintain a standard of wealth because with natural market deflation with an honest monetary system automatically increased their wealth and purchasing power. Going to that last link I posted look at the value of a dollar in 2008' to the 1913' and imagine if you will that over a period of time, you pay stayed the same but prices fell to the point of what they were in 1985'. How many of us would love to go to 1985' but make the same wage or salary that we do today? Our wages and salaries don't go up in true value but are in fact chasing an ever declining dollar trying to maintain a standard of wealth and living. Those on fixed income or the poor benefitted because the goal line was never moving away but rather always sliding down to them making it easier to move out from such conditions if one put the least bit of effort into it. But then how does such a natural economic occurrance from an honest monetary system benefit or empower those who seek power and wish to do so by exploiting the mal-conditions of others? Be hard wouldn't it. In order to do that, you'd need an economic and monetary system that creates such conditions in order to manipulate and benefit from in the first place. :surprise: But around the turn of the century and the Spanish American War, a [URL='http://mises.org/story/364'][COLOR=red]major paradigm shift[/COLOR] [/URL]in America was taking place and we've never looked back on our roller coaster ride down to the point now that the dollar is worth less than a nickle. We're at the bottom people, we can't go that much further. And here's another question for your. Granted compared to today 19th century healthcare was not the best but in it's time of an ever stronger increasing value dollar, what do you think the cost of healthcare at that time was doing? Again, the reverse being true, what are healthcare costs doing today? Are we being played for a fool? :surprised: Ironically the progressive movement was as much a [URL='http://mises.org/story/1259'][COLOR=red]religious one[/COLOR][/URL] or at least heavily driven and I guess it goes back to our European heritage of being tossed to and fro by religious forces interwined with the State in order to protect the [B]"Dark Con of Man!"[/B] :wink2: As Rothbard pointed out as to immigration from Europe, this was also a focus by [URL='https://web.archive.org/web/20100109093244/http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~eagleton/e-gov/e-politicalarchive-Progressive.htm'][COLOR=red]others[/COLOR][/URL] on the subject so it would seem the issue of immigration has long been a keystone of advancing and growing gov't as well. Let's build a wall so we can't leav.....uh keep the nasty immigrants out! [/QUOTE]
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