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<blockquote data-quote="JimJimmyJames" data-source="post: 593311" data-attributes="member: 11425"><p>That is what I find ironic about NAFTA. Here was a program that was supposedly going to help our friends south of the border. Maybe it did to some extent. But then why do we have the massive illegal immigration problem with Mexico? Makes you wonder...</p><p> </p><p>Believe me, I know we Americans and the Mexicans are both being manipulated by our respective governments to benefit the corporate cartels of the world. </p><p> </p><p>I do not hold it against the illegals who seek only a better a life for their families.</p><p> </p><p>But what worries me, besides the massive influx of workers who naturally drive wages lower and also demand, since they are poor, more from our welfare state in the form of healthcare and social services, is the cultural impact.</p><p> </p><p>Now this is where I may sound elitist but being of Irish descent and being raised Catholic, I can say this without prejudice. Since most of our illegal immigration is coming from South and Central America, can America successfully incorporate so many from countries, that in comparison to ours, might be deemed failures?</p><p> </p><p>And are these countries failures because they embrace Catholicism? For if you look throughout the world, those cultures who have as their primary religion Catholicism, have historically been poorer than those who don't. At least in the Americas (and Ireland, natch <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" />).</p><p> </p><p>This explantion would be inline with Marx's classic observation of religion being the "opiate of the masses". A priesthood, who obsessively preaches that our rewards are in the next world, in league with wealthy benefactors, creates societies where there are the minority haves, and the vast majority have nots.</p><p> </p><p>Or am I misreading this entirely. Are these countries failures because of our machinations in their affairs?</p><p> </p><p>Probably both reasons.</p><p> </p><p>Maybe I doth protest too much. If these immigrants were happy with the status quo, they would simply stay in their home countries. This desire for improvement reminds me a lot of earlier positive immigration movements. </p><p> </p><p>But the potential problem is, will subsequent generations born to these immigrants retain the desire to improve their lot by resisting the status quo, or will they simply allow themselves to be recruited to our current welfare state of mind?</p><p> </p><p>What this has to do with auditing the Fed I do not know. Sorry for hijacking the thread <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JimJimmyJames, post: 593311, member: 11425"] That is what I find ironic about NAFTA. Here was a program that was supposedly going to help our friends south of the border. Maybe it did to some extent. But then why do we have the massive illegal immigration problem with Mexico? Makes you wonder... Believe me, I know we Americans and the Mexicans are both being manipulated by our respective governments to benefit the corporate cartels of the world. I do not hold it against the illegals who seek only a better a life for their families. But what worries me, besides the massive influx of workers who naturally drive wages lower and also demand, since they are poor, more from our welfare state in the form of healthcare and social services, is the cultural impact. Now this is where I may sound elitist but being of Irish descent and being raised Catholic, I can say this without prejudice. Since most of our illegal immigration is coming from South and Central America, can America successfully incorporate so many from countries, that in comparison to ours, might be deemed failures? And are these countries failures because they embrace Catholicism? For if you look throughout the world, those cultures who have as their primary religion Catholicism, have historically been poorer than those who don't. At least in the Americas (and Ireland, natch :wink2:). This explantion would be inline with Marx's classic observation of religion being the "opiate of the masses". A priesthood, who obsessively preaches that our rewards are in the next world, in league with wealthy benefactors, creates societies where there are the minority haves, and the vast majority have nots. Or am I misreading this entirely. Are these countries failures because of our machinations in their affairs? Probably both reasons. Maybe I doth protest too much. If these immigrants were happy with the status quo, they would simply stay in their home countries. This desire for improvement reminds me a lot of earlier positive immigration movements. But the potential problem is, will subsequent generations born to these immigrants retain the desire to improve their lot by resisting the status quo, or will they simply allow themselves to be recruited to our current welfare state of mind? What this has to do with auditing the Fed I do not know. Sorry for hijacking the thread :wink2:. [/QUOTE]
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