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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 215259"><p>My point was that taking the August pay raise to fund the Health & Welfare fund would be illegal unless a vote was taken to authorize it. And there has been no such vote that I'm aware of. (It's always possible that your Supplement may contain authorizing language, but I doubt it.)</p><p></p><p>I cited the language of Article 34 because it allows re-allocation of benefit raises, and maybe such a reallocation may occur. </p><p></p><p>I'm not going to spend time trying to find proof there was a vote in 1985 to extend the contract until 1987. I assume there was. I assume it would be illegal not to have a vote. But I don't specifically remember.</p><p></p><p>Wkmac,</p><p>In a Democracy, a ratification vote is the *ultimate* way of justifing any voted-upon action. I don't have access to the various Supplements you folks may be under, but I do have the Master Contracts for 1982-1985 and the extension for 1985-1987. Article 34 is significantly different in the extension, and talks of a new Maintenance of Benefits agreement in the Western Conference, among other changes. Presumably the corresponding Articles in the Supplements have changed as well. No doubt there were other changes throughout the contract as well. All this would require a new vote.</p><p></p><p>Again, in a Democracy, if you vote for it you are stuck with it. If, your officers were really violating the contract, then you have to actually charge them and state the specific offense and the specific offenders.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 215259"] My point was that taking the August pay raise to fund the Health & Welfare fund would be illegal unless a vote was taken to authorize it. And there has been no such vote that I'm aware of. (It's always possible that your Supplement may contain authorizing language, but I doubt it.) I cited the language of Article 34 because it allows re-allocation of benefit raises, and maybe such a reallocation may occur. I'm not going to spend time trying to find proof there was a vote in 1985 to extend the contract until 1987. I assume there was. I assume it would be illegal not to have a vote. But I don't specifically remember. Wkmac, In a Democracy, a ratification vote is the *ultimate* way of justifing any voted-upon action. I don't have access to the various Supplements you folks may be under, but I do have the Master Contracts for 1982-1985 and the extension for 1985-1987. Article 34 is significantly different in the extension, and talks of a new Maintenance of Benefits agreement in the Western Conference, among other changes. Presumably the corresponding Articles in the Supplements have changed as well. No doubt there were other changes throughout the contract as well. All this would require a new vote. Again, in a Democracy, if you vote for it you are stuck with it. If, your officers were really violating the contract, then you have to actually charge them and state the specific offense and the specific offenders. [/QUOTE]
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