Understand something, tieguy and lr1937 bleed BROWN. They are so brain washed that UPS it is the biggest and the best (which in some cases may be true) that nothing anyone say's or does will make a bit of difference. They believe that they are so above everyone else that they can not be touched.)))))
Understand this, I do bleed brown and i am proud of the company that provided me with financial security, fairness, and oportunity that I never found anywhere else that I worked. How do you know I am brainwashed? Is it because when i read something here that I think is heferdust, I stand up for what I beleive regarding ups. I respect everyones right to post what they want here and do not attack anyone personally or try to belittle what they have to say. Because I challange what someone says that I don't agree with regarding ups, does that mean I am brainwashed. You can think what you want but I don't look down on anyone. I may disagree with you but do not look down on you or anyone else.
(((tieguy and lr1937 can not allow anyone else to have an option that contradict's the company image or put's the company in a bad light. They are taught that this will under mind there archaic, crule and
dictatorial hold they beileve they have. And in the end erode the final out come, the profit margin and the end of year bonus. ))))
I have to much pride to stand idlely by and not challange negative posts about ups. You can contradict ups all your want and try to put the company in a bad light if thats your bag, but I am going to speak my piece if I disagree with your assumptions and bad lighting. What have I said that is archaic? Is it being cruel to speak your mind and stand up for what you believe in. UPS has never taught anyone to be cruel or dictatorial although some are cruel and dictatorial. What facts do you have that the two of us are cruel and dictatorial or is this another generalization about ups managers that you have rectally extracted.
I have been retired from ups for 10 years so what happens to managers incentive is of no consequence to me other than I like to see hard working managers share in the profits of the company. I don't know what bonus you are talking about. If the company made a profit and I was doing a good enough job I got my additional incentive pay. Not a bonus. Sometimes that additional incentive made my pay equal to the drivers who I worked with.
What is wrong with wanting the company to make a profit? Without one you and every other employees finances are put in jeopardy. I surely hope there is never a year that ups does not make a profit or you and i both are in deep do do.
(((Unbeknowst to them, it is this type of behavior that has lead them to have to deal with Unions.
This type of management was once considered to be the best and most effective, but that was 50 years ago. )))
Cruel and dictatorial behavior was and never will be considered to be the best and most effective behavior. How would you know what was considered effective 50 years ago? How about some information on your training in relationships and behaviors that were in effect 50 years ago.
Unbeknownst to you, Jim Casey made a decision a long time ago that ups people could be both good teamster members and ups employees and sought out the teamsters to represent his employees. I have been a member of a number of unions and have learned to deal with them with respect if they treated me with respect. I would venture to guess that I have more experience and knowledge in dealing with unions and people than you do. I took on the challange of going into management and try to resolve problems rather than sit back and complain and not step up to the plate and do something positive about the things that need improvement.
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If you notice, when tieguy and lr1937 run out of things to fight you with they always go to the
old standby, "If you don't like it then quit". )))
Perhaps you are right, this may be a cop out. I have found thru experience that talking disgruntled and unhappy people into staying in jobs they are unhappy with is futile. Sooner or later if they are truly dissatisfied they leave regardless of how hard you try. You are prolonging the inevitable. It is a suggestion in some cases to put people out of their missery. There were times when people told me if you are that unhappy with your job then leave and it caused me to take stock of what I had and what was going on and I stayed or left. I was unhappy in the army and continually bitched and moaned and left at the end of my term. What else do you tell someone if they are unhappy in a dead end job. I find it very difficult to understand why some one would hate a job and their treatment and continue in misery. Better off getting out.
Finally,I joined and stayed at UPS because it provided me with financial security that I never had prior to signing on. More than anything the ethical and moral teachings of Jim Casey, the founder, fell in line with how I felt people should be treated and how a company should be run. I would suggest you get his teachings from your supervisor if you are a ups employee and it will tell you all you need to know about my reasons for coming and staying at ups. How about you? What are your reasons that is if you are a ups employee?
Thanks for informing everyone that I BLEED brown. If your gonna bleed I can't think of a better way to bleed. It was my life for 30 years and I was and am still proud to be a part of a great company.
