Back pay

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by raiders98, Oct 23, 2018.

  1. MarvelousMunata

    MarvelousMunata The Scapegoat With Attitude

    I was asking...not claiming facts.
  2. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    That's the way it should be. There's a word for being compelled by threat of force to provide services for someone without compensation...

    I don't see how any reasonable person can support RTW laws as they are written.
  3. MarvelousMunata

    MarvelousMunata The Scapegoat With Attitude

    Agreed. Im not in a rtw state however. Union is a good thing. Idky people believe otherwise.
  4. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    It's a combination of a lack of understanding of economic forces, and an overall weakening of the labor movement through the corruption and incompetence of Union Officials. Many people don't understand why they should have to pay dues just to work a job. All they see is money coming out of their checks.
  5. Automaton

    Automaton New Member

    I'm convinced a fair number of people don't vote because they're afraid of making the wrong decision, and prefer to leave that decision to others who might have a better understanding of the consequences. It would be interesting to see a survey or study done on this so we have some idea of the numbers involved. If I'm right, though, making it easier to vote won't convince some people to do so.
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  6. Misthios

    Misthios I love my job. Don't you?

    Very good point actually. I had never thought of it that way. I wonder how many people don't vote because of that instead of I don't care.
  7. Yolo

    Yolo Active Member

    I-Team: Seasonal UPS Workers Had Almost Entire Paychecks Handed Over To Union

    :censored2: like this doesn't help either. Teamsters officials need to remember who they work for.
  8. You didn't get yours yet everybody gets theirs at the same time stop bring a jackass
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Yet, another child.... left behind.
  10. dupa

    dupa On-Road Integrated Optimization and Navigation.

  11. They don't work for us. 2021 we need to send a message.
  12. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    When did he bring a jackass. That’s wrong if he brought one to the party.
  13. CoffeeStainedUniform

    CoffeeStainedUniform Active Member

    *I'm in a RTW state, I also pay my dues.*

    I like it better in RTW. Preload makes very little for what they do. Most of them can't get a 'better' job around here and struggle to pay for gas. I'd rather Union Membership and obligation be optional.

    As a side benefit, there's no one who counted as a 'non vote' because they didn't care about being a union member.
  14. You shouldn't receive the same benefits as those who pay for it. That's the way I see it
  15. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    That is my only beef with RTW.
  16. CoffeeStainedUniform

    CoffeeStainedUniform Active Member

    Preload making $13, working just as hard as we do but with less OT. No, they should only pay dues optionally (I did). We should have their backs regardless.
  17. Wrong. That's called being a scab.
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  18. CoffeeStainedUniform

    CoffeeStainedUniform Active Member

    Going to the core problem; maybe we, the union, didn't represent the PT well enough to get them a fair wage for their work. Just my opinion on their compensation.
  19. They got a nice raise this contract. How many part time jobs have health insurance, paid vacation and a pension?
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  20. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    So you think PT workers should reap the benefits of being Union (Benfits, Pension, Vacation,Etc..) but not have to pay for it. Then you think the Union that they don't contribute to should fight for them to make more money?

    Sorry but $32.50 a month isn't going to bankrupt anyone with 2 jobs and if you work PT you should have 2 jobs. Anyone that says it will is just looking for something for nothing.
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