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<blockquote data-quote="Inthegame" data-source="post: 1122521" data-attributes="member: 37112"><p>Once again another example of believing BS without doing the math. </p><p>1) While your point is accurate in that new hires pay initiation (ours in $100 one time), income to the union from a new hire, even with initiation fees, is <strong>lower </strong>than from a higher wage "old timer". Example, new hire pkg driver at seniority rate pays $43 per month in dues or $516 per year. Old timers dues at top rate pays $960 per year. Union loses $444 minus initiation. The union continues to collect less throughout the progression period than it would had "old timer" stayed working. The <u>employer</u> saves money in this deal, the union and the new employee, get less.</p><p>2) No benefit contribution money goes to a union treasury. Pension contributions made on behalf of non-vested participants stays in the Trust Funds to be used for vested participants.</p><p></p><p>The Union does benefit when PT's quit soon after initiation and are replaced, but not so much once members start increasing wages which increases dues. The same principle applies as stated in point 1 above but on a smaller scale.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Inthegame, post: 1122521, member: 37112"] Once again another example of believing BS without doing the math. 1) While your point is accurate in that new hires pay initiation (ours in $100 one time), income to the union from a new hire, even with initiation fees, is [B]lower [/B]than from a higher wage "old timer". Example, new hire pkg driver at seniority rate pays $43 per month in dues or $516 per year. Old timers dues at top rate pays $960 per year. Union loses $444 minus initiation. The union continues to collect less throughout the progression period than it would had "old timer" stayed working. The [U]employer[/U] saves money in this deal, the union and the new employee, get less. 2) No benefit contribution money goes to a union treasury. Pension contributions made on behalf of non-vested participants stays in the Trust Funds to be used for vested participants. The Union does benefit when PT's quit soon after initiation and are replaced, but not so much once members start increasing wages which increases dues. The same principle applies as stated in point 1 above but on a smaller scale. [/QUOTE]
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