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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1546615" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Great question and not an easy answer. There are people that need help and many because of circumstances even beyond their own choices will need continuing help. RB did qualify his idea to those able bodied and all the political boogie manning aside this issue generates from both sides, I think most everyone would generally agree with RB that the UNable bodied should be out of the discussion or at least addressed in a whole other discussion. In RB's case, I applaud his idea of a place to start.</p><p></p><p>As I look as the various corp. interests who profit and at the same time affect the outcome of our political choices, I have to wonder just how far they would also go to advocate public policy that help to sustain economic problems among population segments in which they would profit in some manner via the public purse? The next question is what politicians are in league with these corp. interests and I suspect a very bi-partisan picture would emerge if we began to look.</p><p></p><p>And you are correct, the standard of living contrary to the many carts full of T-Bones and the latest fully loaded Cadillac in the parking lot claims is not that great. If the Cadillac claims were so true, how could GM be in such economic straights? <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Sadly when it comes to discussing welfare, the discussion more often than not begins and ends with public welfare but any real meaningful welfare discussion is going to have to embrace ALL FORMS of welfare and I suspect in doing so, there's nobody here who won't walk away having some favorite Ox of theirs being gored. </p><p></p><p>Do we have the courage to walk that walk?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1546615, member: 2189"] Great question and not an easy answer. There are people that need help and many because of circumstances even beyond their own choices will need continuing help. RB did qualify his idea to those able bodied and all the political boogie manning aside this issue generates from both sides, I think most everyone would generally agree with RB that the UNable bodied should be out of the discussion or at least addressed in a whole other discussion. In RB's case, I applaud his idea of a place to start. As I look as the various corp. interests who profit and at the same time affect the outcome of our political choices, I have to wonder just how far they would also go to advocate public policy that help to sustain economic problems among population segments in which they would profit in some manner via the public purse? The next question is what politicians are in league with these corp. interests and I suspect a very bi-partisan picture would emerge if we began to look. And you are correct, the standard of living contrary to the many carts full of T-Bones and the latest fully loaded Cadillac in the parking lot claims is not that great. If the Cadillac claims were so true, how could GM be in such economic straights? ;) Sadly when it comes to discussing welfare, the discussion more often than not begins and ends with public welfare but any real meaningful welfare discussion is going to have to embrace ALL FORMS of welfare and I suspect in doing so, there's nobody here who won't walk away having some favorite Ox of theirs being gored. Do we have the courage to walk that walk? [/QUOTE]
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