Brady Campaign braces for loss in Heller vs. DC

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by brett636, Jun 13, 2008.

  1. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    This is for the benefit of BS who exclaimed that he was present for the heller case arguments and how he fully expects Mr. Heller to lose his case in his right to bear arms. Seems like one of the nations strongest gun control advocates are prepared to lose this battle in the Supreme Court.

  2. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    What a powerful admission.

    I wonder how much of that 75% is driven by the events of 9/11 and the potential of another attack at any time/ any place and the unspoken belief by the public that in the end there is not much any gov't can do to protect you so you must be in position to protect yourself?
  3. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Another WOW! If you understand the term federal enclave and organic State citizenship verses 14th amendment Federal Citizenship. It's also the reason there was orginally not a pledge of allegiance or other public actions to display or show loyality. Hint! hint!

    So will gun control groups now take up the mantle of State's Rights in their quest? God I pray they do!
  4. av8torntn

    av8torntn Well-Known Member

  5. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    LOL! Here's something to consider. DC although has what people think/consider a non federal local gov't, the area described in law as the District of Columbia is under complete federal jurisdiction.

    Washington DC was never intended to be a state but rather a federal enclave hence the term District so that no one state could have home field advantage. I'm also against DC Statehood if you can't tell.

    Being an enclave and not a state, this Heller decision may not have the impact that gun control forces are looking for and now they are hedging their bets.

    Getting to AV's point about the turmoil and crime in the area, what should we then deduce from the federal gov't ability to not be able to handle such a small area and then we are to think they can handle an area encompassing 50 states!

    Think about it!
  6. av8torntn

    av8torntn Well-Known Member

    Hmm we take away everyones guns and then have to conduct military style cordon and search operations just to make an attempt to reduce crime. Anyway looks like tomorrow is going to be the big day.
  7. av8torntn

    av8torntn Well-Known Member

    I can't believe nobody posted this.

    "The Court took no position on whether the Second Amendment right restricts only federal government powers, or also curbs the power of states to regulate guns. In a footnote, Scalia said that the issue of “incorporating” the Second into the Fourteenth Amendment, thus applying it to the states, was “a question not presented by this case.” But the footnote said decisions in 1886 and 1894 had reaffirmed that the Amendment “applies only to the Federal Government.” Whether the Court will reopen that issue thus will depend upon future cases."

    “We start therefore with a strong presumption that the Second Amendment right is exercised individually and belongs to all Americans.”
  8. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

  9. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    This is a great decision. It made up for the one yesterday when pervert child rapists were denied having the Death Sentence imposed on them.