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<blockquote data-quote="10 point" data-source="post: 2482130" data-attributes="member: 52520">Yes I agree with most of that. But very few people walk into that job today. They work for years as part time and then they&#039;ve got a four-year progression. They start out with no vacations for a year and then they have 3 weeks off not 7. I&#039;m not blaming leadership with&nbsp; blanket condemnation and every local is different. People really don&#039;t know what they have when they&#039;re full time or when they get hired off the street but part-time- work at UPS is not a goal for many people today. It&#039;s just a fill in vocation and with no benefits or vacations, plus being on call for most of the first year it&#039;s simply not worth it for many.What used to be a coveted company to work for has become greatly devalued. When you get hired in and in short time end up having to load 4 or 5 cars at 4:45 am without bennies and the other perks they simply don&#039;t stick with it.I had a small tile company on my route ask me if I knew anybody that would like to have a job there. They started out at $11.50/hr and in 90 days they had full benefits and vacations. No union dues or initiation fees. They&#039;re non-union. You tell me where the problem lies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="10 point, post: 2482130, member: 52520"] Yes I agree with most of that. But very few people walk into that job today. They work for years as part time and then they've got a four-year progression. They start out with no vacations for a year and then they have 3 weeks off not 7. I'm not blaming leadership with blanket condemnation and every local is different. People really don't know what they have when they're full time or when they get hired off the street but part-time- work at UPS is not a goal for many people today. It's just a fill in vocation and with no benefits or vacations, plus being on call for most of the first year it's simply not worth it for many. What used to be a coveted company to work for has become greatly devalued. When you get hired in and in short time end up having to load 4 or 5 cars at 4:45 am without bennies and the other perks they simply don't stick with it. I had a small tile company on my route ask me if I knew anybody that would like to have a job there. They started out at $11.50/hr and in 90 days they had full benefits and vacations. No union dues or initiation fees. They're non-union. You tell me where the problem lies. [/QUOTE]

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