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<blockquote data-quote="TearsInRain" data-source="post: 5266134" data-attributes="member: 24487">also the melting pot argument is total crapprevious waves of immigration absolutely changed our values and politics: the irish, the germans, and italians each group left indelible marks on the countrythe difference is we shut off each of those groups after 5-10 years of immigration and then spent decades assimilating themso the idea that we can have 60+ years of immigration from countries whose values are TOTALLY different than ours, from cultures TOTALLY different than ours, not shut the valve off, but still assimilate them WITHOUT changing our values is totally DELUSIONALif you want to see the future of the US, it&#039;s Brazil; a multiethnic, multicultural WRECK of a nation state; corrupt beyond belief with insane levels of crime and income inequality, and always 5 years and a good economic downturn away from devolving into anarchy, civil war, or just a straight up dictatorship</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TearsInRain, post: 5266134, member: 24487"] also the melting pot argument is total crap previous waves of immigration absolutely changed our values and politics: the irish, the germans, and italians each group left indelible marks on the country the difference is we shut off each of those groups after 5-10 years of immigration and then spent decades assimilating them so the idea that we can have 60+ years of immigration from countries whose values are TOTALLY different than ours, from cultures TOTALLY different than ours, not shut the valve off, but still assimilate them WITHOUT changing our values is totally [B]DELUSIONAL[/B] if you want to see the future of the US, it's Brazil; a multiethnic, multicultural WRECK of a nation state; corrupt beyond belief with insane levels of crime and income inequality, and always 5 years and a good economic downturn away from devolving into anarchy, civil war, or just a straight up dictatorship [/QUOTE]

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