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<blockquote data-quote="UPS Lifer" data-source="post: 765317" data-attributes="member: 9789">I know that I may sound like a conservative&#039;s conservative but I am not.&nbsp; I am not a kool aid drinker.&nbsp; I make my own mind up based on my life experiences.&nbsp;&nbsp; I don&#039;t have a lot of good things politically to say about Bush his last two years in office. I think he was in retirement mode.&nbsp; BUT I strongly believe him to be a man of honor and charity.&nbsp; I believe he was a president for the entire country and tried to do what was right for ALL Americans.&nbsp; I also do not have any major problems with Clinton as president. I detest that he embarrassed himself and the American people with his sexual escapades but I will try to separate that from running the country.&nbsp; Though a valid argument can be made that he put the country at a security risk.&nbsp; It is a weakness that our enemies can exploit.&nbsp; A true conservative &amp; Christian Republican would probably have a much more intense opinion.&nbsp; I believe in a lot of the same things that most moderate Dems &amp; Reps believe in.&nbsp; I also believe in a lot of things that Libertarians believe in. Here is where I have a problem... I feel that the uber-left looks down upon the rest of the country.&nbsp; There is an air of righteous indignation and flat out arrogance that brings out intense feelings in me. They are the only ones who know what is best for the rest of us and they feel that they are smarter and more educated than anyone to the right of them.&nbsp; They should be making ALL the decisions.&nbsp; I believe in individual freedoms which are given to us by a higher power - state&#039;s rights - fiscal responsibility and a secure national defense that fosters peace through strength.&nbsp; At UPS, I managed different departments and operations for over 20 years. There was the &quot;Union&quot; and there was the &quot;Company&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; I ALWAYS did what I thought was the right thing to do.&nbsp; The more wisdom I gained, the better I was able to compromise and make decisions that were good for both sides.&nbsp;&nbsp; You didn&#039;t see grievances.&nbsp; I met with stewards every week. Stewards were invited to any type of meeting other than a planning mtg that I was involved in.&nbsp; Any time there was a problem we sat down and hammered out a solution.&nbsp; There was no us versus them.&nbsp; I wouldn&#039;t allow it.&nbsp; Our problem with this country today is that we cannot find common ground.&nbsp; Each side must win at all costs. If things don&#039;t change soon this could be what unravels the very fabric of this American society.&nbsp; It is up to the people in charge to reach out across the isle and find common ground and learn how to &quot;split the baby&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; This administration believes they know better than the majority of the people.&nbsp; They govern through redistribution of wealth - take from the rich to give to the poor.&nbsp; We are a nanny state.&nbsp; Too many people depend on the government for their existence.&nbsp; The ubers don&#039;t understand that American society knows best and they are servants to the people! Don&#039;t get me wrong there are right wingers who do the same thing.&nbsp; They all need to be gone.&nbsp; ... and if you think I would endorse Palin for president, you are dead wrong.&nbsp; As for the &quot;Jews&quot;. I really don&#039;t like that term.&nbsp; The way I was raised and my heritage is aligned closely with Jewish and Latin culture and family life.&nbsp; My religious upbringing comes directly from the Old Testament of the Bible.&nbsp; It is not hard for me to understand the Jewish culture.&nbsp; I never could understand why the Jewish people were so hated.&nbsp; I still don&#039;t understand it today... unless it is because they are feared ??&nbsp;&nbsp; When it comes to religion, I am fine with what ever anyone&#039;s belief is including atheism.&nbsp; I don&#039;t believe there is a chosen people. Everyone is going to move on and meet their maker. What I have intense feelings about is someone trying to tell me what to believe in. Muslim religion view....Radical Muslims have declared war on Christianity &amp; Judaism as well as America etc. These individuals can hide for years in sleeper cells.So, as a country, we need to be cognizant of that and protect our interest and safety or all Americans and thoroughly vet these folks as the need arises.&nbsp; I support what ever activity is needed to root out the sleeper cells short of religious discrimination.Dies says he is for the &quot;little guy&quot;.&nbsp; Since when are Muslims the &quot;little guy&quot;?&nbsp;&nbsp; The Israelites have been an oppressed society for 2500 plus years!&nbsp; As for the mosque....You have to be open minded and be flexible to make progress.&nbsp; Some want this mosque - most New Yorkers don&#039;t.&nbsp; So compromise move it to another location that is acceptable to both sides. Sorry for the long post - I know that most won&#039;t read it but it feels good to get it out. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/soapbox1.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":soapbox:" title="soapbox&nbsp; &nbsp; :soapbox:" data-shortname=":soapbox:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="UPS Lifer, post: 765317, member: 9789"] [B]I know that I may sound like a conservative's conservative but I am not[/B]. I am not a kool aid drinker. I make my own mind up based on my life experiences. I don't have a lot of good things politically to say about Bush his last two years in office. I think he was in retirement mode. BUT I strongly believe him to be a man of honor and charity. I believe he was a president for the entire country and tried to do what was right for ALL Americans. I also do not have any major problems with Clinton as president. I detest that he embarrassed himself and the American people with his sexual escapades but I will try to separate that from running the country. Though a valid argument can be made that he put the country at a security risk. It is a weakness that our enemies can exploit. A true conservative & Christian Republican would probably have a much more intense opinion. I believe in a lot of the same things that most moderate Dems & Reps believe in. I also believe in a lot of things that Libertarians believe in. [COLOR=red][COLOR=black][B]Here is where I have a problem...[/B][/COLOR] I feel that the uber-left looks down upon the rest of the country. There is an air of righteous indignation and flat out arrogance that brings out intense feelings in me. They are the only ones who know what is best for the rest of us and they feel that they are smarter and more educated than anyone to the right of them. They should be making ALL the decisions. I believe in individual freedoms which are given to us by a higher power - state's rights - fiscal responsibility and a secure national defense that fosters peace through strength. [/COLOR] [B]At UPS,[/B] I managed different departments and operations for over 20 years. There was the "Union" and there was the "Company". I ALWAYS did what I thought was the right thing to do. The more wisdom I gained, the better I was able to compromise and make decisions that were good for both sides. You didn't see grievances. I met with stewards every week. Stewards were invited to any type of meeting other than a planning mtg that I was involved in. Any time there was a problem we sat down and hammered out a solution. There was no us versus them. I wouldn't allow it. [B]Our problem with this country today is that we cannot find common ground.[/B] Each side must win at all costs. If things don't change soon this could be what unravels the very fabric of this American society. It is up to the people in charge to reach out across the isle and find common ground and learn how to "split the baby". This administration believes they know better than the majority of the people. They govern through redistribution of wealth - take from the rich to give to the poor. We are a nanny state. Too many people depend on the government for their existence. [B]The ubers don't understand that American society knows best and they are servants to the people![/B] Don't get me wrong there are right wingers who do the same thing. They all need to be gone. ... and if you think I would endorse Palin for president, you are dead wrong. [B]As for the "Jews"[/B]. [COLOR=red] I really don't like that term[/COLOR]. The way I was raised and my heritage is aligned closely with Jewish and Latin culture and family life. My religious upbringing comes directly from the Old Testament of the Bible. It is not hard for me to understand the Jewish culture. I never could understand why the Jewish people were so hated. I still don't understand it today... unless it is because they are feared ?? [B]When it comes to religion[/B], I am fine with what ever anyone's belief is including atheism. I don't believe there is a chosen people. Everyone is going to move on and meet their maker. What I have intense feelings about is someone trying to tell me what to believe in. [B]Muslim religion view[/B].... Radical Muslims have [COLOR=red]declared war[/COLOR] on Christianity & Judaism as well as America etc. These individuals can hide for years in sleeper cells. So, as a country, we need to be cognizant of that and protect our interest and safety or all Americans and thoroughly vet these folks as the need arises. I support what ever activity is needed to root out the sleeper cells short of religious discrimination. [B]Dies[/B] says he is for the "little guy". Since when are Muslims the "little guy"? The Israelites have been an oppressed society for 2500 plus years! [B]As for the mosque....[/B] You have to be open minded and be flexible to make progress. Some want this mosque - most New Yorkers don't. So compromise move it to another location that is acceptable to both sides. Sorry for the long post - I know that most won't read it but it feels good to get it out. :soapbox: [/QUOTE]

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