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<blockquote data-quote="beentheredonethat" data-source="post: 1072992" data-attributes="member: 4886"><p>Brownsuit... Currently my job has not been put into the newer bands yet. However, I do know a lot of people who were impacted. While I have not seen anyone with a "negative pay increase" excluding those who are demoted from one job to another (mgr to supv). I do see "negative increases" in the sense that many people are "maxed" out and no longer get a raise. However, when Inflation goes up a few percent and your out of pocket for Health and Welfare goes up. In effect, you get a negative pay raise. You may not see it that way, but it is quite true. </p><p></p><p>As far as how the pay bands were done.. again, my department hasn't been impacted yet, but I have heard we will be this coming year. I do know a lot of guys in IE in the district. What I think is crazy and makes me realize how screwed up the system is. Every FT IE Supv is the same pay grade (I believe it is a 20E but can't swear to it). </p><p></p><p>I've done enough IE jobs as a supervisor in the past to know certain IE jobs are a heck of a lot easier then others. Or maybe a better way to put it, needs less skill or knowledge then other IE jobs. Jobs such as Hub IE are relatively easy, pkg IE a bit harder, at the top end of IE jobs are Fdr IE, Air IE, Sales IE, and B&friend IE. (In my opinion in that order). Yet there is no difference in pay band for any of the FT IE jobs. That's ridiculous. I was told, (who knows if it's true or not) that originally corporate had district IE jobs as different pay grades (ie 20D, 20E etc) However, the IE mgrs shot it down, since it made rotating their people harder to manage. </p><p></p><p>When you think of it and think hard. How can you say the whole pay bands are fair, when every job in a dept has the same pay grade?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="beentheredonethat, post: 1072992, member: 4886"] Brownsuit... Currently my job has not been put into the newer bands yet. However, I do know a lot of people who were impacted. While I have not seen anyone with a "negative pay increase" excluding those who are demoted from one job to another (mgr to supv). I do see "negative increases" in the sense that many people are "maxed" out and no longer get a raise. However, when Inflation goes up a few percent and your out of pocket for Health and Welfare goes up. In effect, you get a negative pay raise. You may not see it that way, but it is quite true. As far as how the pay bands were done.. again, my department hasn't been impacted yet, but I have heard we will be this coming year. I do know a lot of guys in IE in the district. What I think is crazy and makes me realize how screwed up the system is. Every FT IE Supv is the same pay grade (I believe it is a 20E but can't swear to it). I've done enough IE jobs as a supervisor in the past to know certain IE jobs are a heck of a lot easier then others. Or maybe a better way to put it, needs less skill or knowledge then other IE jobs. Jobs such as Hub IE are relatively easy, pkg IE a bit harder, at the top end of IE jobs are Fdr IE, Air IE, Sales IE, and B&friend IE. (In my opinion in that order). Yet there is no difference in pay band for any of the FT IE jobs. That's ridiculous. I was told, (who knows if it's true or not) that originally corporate had district IE jobs as different pay grades (ie 20D, 20E etc) However, the IE mgrs shot it down, since it made rotating their people harder to manage. When you think of it and think hard. How can you say the whole pay bands are fair, when every job in a dept has the same pay grade? [/QUOTE]
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