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<blockquote data-quote="dmac1" data-source="post: 3276889" data-attributes="member: 60252">Vantexan is unaware that without progressive thinking, we&#039;d still be living in caves, or maybe trees. Just like conservatives can&#039;t see that &#039;socialism&#039; has society as its base, they can&#039;t see that &#039;progressive&#039; has &#039;progress&#039; as its base. They don&#039;t even see that public roads, public policing, public parks, public schools, etc, etc, etc are all socialist. They love all those, but hate &#039;socialism,&#039; failing to understand that there are different degrees of socialism, just like there are different degrees of capitalism possible, or communism, or different degrees of progressivism.Conservatives are afraid of change- they need the comfortable sameness so that they can avoid changing themselves. There is no allowable variation in conservatism- you are either conservative, or you are not. They don&#039;t even see that the high tax rates of the time they remember so fondly were the reason for the country&#039;s strength and growth, with the high rates on profits taken out of a business forcing reinvestment and growth. They will never have the same level of growth as we had with higher tax rates when profit is taken out of the economy and put into the hands of those who don&#039;t need to spend it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dmac1, post: 3276889, member: 60252"] Vantexan is unaware that without progressive thinking, we'd still be living in caves, or maybe trees. Just like conservatives can't see that 'socialism' has society as its base, they can't see that 'progressive' has 'progress' as its base. They don't even see that public roads, public policing, public parks, public schools, etc, etc, etc are all socialist. They love all those, but hate 'socialism,' failing to understand that there are different degrees of socialism, just like there are different degrees of capitalism possible, or communism, or different degrees of progressivism. Conservatives are afraid of change- they need the comfortable sameness so that they can avoid changing themselves. There is no allowable variation in conservatism- you are either conservative, or you are not. They don't even see that the high tax rates of the time they remember so fondly were the reason for the country's strength and growth, with the high rates on profits taken out of a business forcing reinvestment and growth. They will never have the same level of growth as we had with higher tax rates when profit is taken out of the economy and put into the hands of those who don't need to spend it. [/QUOTE]

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