Calling the Vote

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by I GOT ONE MORE, Jun 8, 2013.

  1. I've been reading, watching, listening, and talking about this contract.

    Many think it'a a done deal.

    Ratification of this contract is far from a sure thing.

    The vote will be alarming.

    If it goes down, which I believe it will, there will be limited time for renegotiations. I'm sure we would continue to work past July 31 with retroactive benefits.

    If it passes, we need a recount with a 4th "impartial" party observing.

    ​Anyway, I'm calling it. It's a big fat NO and UPS/Teamsters are making headlines.

    Sad, but both sides made the bed that the member/employees must sleep in.
  2. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    The only "alarming" thing might be....

    How many dues paying members, don't even bother to vote.

    Here are the vote results from the last contract.... About 30% on average.

    UPS Vote Count Results | Teamsters for a Democratic Union

    How did your Local fair ??

  3. 'Lord Brown's bidding'

    'Lord Brown's bidding' Well-Known Member

    Shouldn't there be a coordinated effort by the locals to ask each and every employee whether they voted or not, like how there were people going house-to-house making sure everyone was registered to vote? Something as simple as being excused for 30-60 mins one day to physically walk to every member working and asking, "Have you voted yet?" and if no, "Why not?" I am sure it wouldn't be inappropiate to address the importance of voting on what each individual would like to see in their personal working relationship with UPS; that is how I view this, and I am apolitical in nature. Granted, in the end my own wishes won't be entirely met, but have enough been met-whether they be for my own family needs, or IMO the entire union membership-for me to vote yes. This shouldn't take a lot, but could be done one day-a-week up until the deadline, and unlike the elections of e-boards and officials, this directly pertains to the company as well as the workers, so I would think a steward could be excused from their duties to walk to each and every member of their shift and ask the question.
  4. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Good question, made it a poll.
  5. Excellent link. Thank you.

    Did a rough count, only about 75,000 voted.

    Makes you think!
  6. anonymous6

    anonymous6 Guest

    going by Brown Café voters, it will be NO. I did an informal poll at my hub and the vote is yes.

    sad to say but many Teamsters did not learn an important lesson from the 97 strike. our parking lot is full of brand new pick ups , Harleys, boats , rvs, and other toys that have to be payed on every month.

    how do you think people will vote when most are overextended and stupid.
  7. 'Lord Brown's bidding'

    'Lord Brown's bidding' Well-Known Member

    What percentage of the workforce-outside of maybe feeders-was around for the 97' strike?
  8. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    Wow, not even 400 members of my entire local voted on it. There are about 170 FT'ers JUST in my hub.....That is sad
  9. Evil

    Evil Active Member

    If this horrible TA passes we deserve to be called "stupid truck drivers."
  10. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Are they overextended? That is an assumption. Most drivers are making 80k without too much OT.
  11. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Stupid or wealthy?
  12. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I didn't break $70K last year.
  13. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    You must not work any OT. 2 OT hours a week will get you about 70k. However, I do believe your claim. And at 70k, do you feel you are over extended?
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It's not how much you make it's how much you spend and how much you owe.

    I don't feel that I am over extended.
  15. undies

    undies Active Member

    I didn't realize my local 396 had so many members, although most didn't vote at all.
  16. East coast navy

    East coast navy Veteran

    My local has a little over 2000 Fters members. and only 800 voted. We have just under 6000 PTers. I bet that was the same.
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Can you imagine the turnout if they had to go to the union hall to vote?
  18. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    Appears I was the only one in local 618 to vote.:biting:
  19. dave_socal

    dave_socal PACKAGE/FEEDER

  20. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Yeah, but how did you vote?