Center and driver helper question, on topic please

[BeachBoy]

Center and helper question. Five hours in the center, followed by 6 hours on a package car.
HR is claiming they are two different jobs, therefore no OT..
They show up on the same paycheck though.
Any thoughts, ideas, arguments before I file a grievance?
Thanks in advance for any real thoughts…

 

[Indecisi0n]

No OT pay then I wouldn't do it.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Two different jobs.

 

[BeachBoy]

Two different jobs.

Same paycheck, same day, same employee #. Different how?
How is it different than double shifting?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Same paycheck, same day, same employee #. Different how?
How is it different than double shifting?

Different classification.

You could try to grieve it but the minute you submit the paperwork your helping days are over.

 

[Rack em]

Should be 3 hours of OT since you worked over 8 hours in a day.

 

[MECH-lift]

HR is claiming they are two different jobs, therefore no OT..

It’s just another sneaky method UPS uses to steal money from you.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Two different jobs.

 

[HEFFERNAN]

It’s just another sneaky method UPS uses to steal money from you.

It's called Fool Me Once, Shame On You - Fool Me Twice, Shame On Me
I guarantee the OP just helped his last driver.

 

[BUCN85]

I always got Ot after 8 when I was a loader/helper

 

[Brownslave688]

Center and helper question. Five hours in the center, followed by 6 hours on a package car.
HR is claiming they are two different jobs, therefore no OT..
They show up on the same paycheck though.
Any thoughts, ideas, arguments before I file a grievance?
Thanks in advance for any real thoughts…

HR is right.


This comes up every year

 

[MynameisNeigan]

Center and helper question. Five hours in the center, followed by 6 hours on a package car.
HR is claiming they are two different jobs, therefore no OT..
They show up on the same paycheck though.
Any thoughts, ideas, arguments before I file a grievance?
Thanks in advance for any real thoughts…

In my area anything over 5 hours in the same shift is OT. If doubling or working driver helper time restarts but any work in the same day over 8 hours is OT
. As per your time it would be 3 hours OT for that day, even for seasonal employees

 

[Boxslinger11]

Two different job classifications but after 8 total for the day you should be getting OT That's how it works here at least

 

[PT Car Washer]

Two different job classifications but after 8 total for the day you should be getting OT That's how it works here at least

Two different jobs, but still working for the same company. OT after 8.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Management should be more upfront about this when asking for takers, that way expectations match reality. But ultimately It is up to you to find out. I was paid seasonal rates instead of my inside rate once. I had to take time out of my day job to do it, so I stopped helping once I found out.

 

[Sweeper]

Center and helper question. Five hours in the center, followed by 6 hours on a package car.
HR is claiming they are two different jobs, therefore no OT..
They show up on the same paycheck though.
Any thoughts, ideas, arguments before I file a grievance?
Thanks in advance for any real thoughts…

Check with your steward, if they don’t have an answer and they may not due to changing classification midday, call your union hall and talk to a BA. It is more than likely a topic covered in your supplement. Chances are you’re SOL. The other thing to check is state law. For instance here anything over 40, in a week, is OT per state law. Most states have a labor department you can contact with questions like this.

 

[Wally]

Center and helper question. Five hours in the center, followed by 6 hours on a package car.
HR is claiming they are two different jobs, therefore no OT..
They show up on the same paycheck though.
Any thoughts, ideas, arguments before I file a grievance?
Thanks in advance for any real thoughts…

Five plus six equals eleven unless you went to a liberal public school. That not withstanding, three hours of that job are overtime hours.

Same company, hours at each job does not matter.

 

[UPS2012]

I guess it depends where. A clerk where I am at double shifts and she said she doesn’t get OT

 

[BeachBoy]

I spoke with my Union steward, he agrees. A bit of research on state law also back me up.
I talked with every employee I know that is working in the center and on a package car and we are all filing grievances on Monday.
I will update with a resolution, hopefully it can help others with the same issues.

 

[Wally]

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