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<blockquote data-quote="RockyRogue" data-source="post: 184130" data-attributes="member: 7185"><p>Sawdust, </p><p> </p><p>I think my "cheerleaders" comment may have been taken out of context. Regardless, the statistical data is what I'd need to see to give any credence to <strong>any</strong> claims of success. If APWA's leadership doesn't feel comfortable putting that out, hey, <em>great. </em>I have zero problem with that. I'm just not going to give credence to <strong><em><u>any</u></em></strong> claims til I start seeing some combination of these: </p><p>1). Mass media coverage (CNN, Fox, etc, etc el-al)</p><p>2). Statistical information (and statistics in this form isn't hard to understand, so I wanna see 'em). </p><p>I don't feel this is unreasonable. I need solid information (statistical data) and/or mass media reporting on the effort (proof the effort isn't a one barn effort). </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Its a mistake to collect cards only in one part of the country. I haven't heard one word in Denver, let alone from anyone in the Denver area. The fellow running Brown is the only way I've heard anything about APWA save for this site. And APWA's site isn't exactly a great provider of information. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>They may give credit somehow but they're not enough. Some time? Sir, this may take <strong>years</strong> and that's just in <em>one</em> part of the country. An NLRB vote may be ten years away! Burying information is the <em>last</em> thing APWA's leadership wants to do. Here we go again with <strong><em><u>credibility</u></em></strong>!!! APWA's fight is hinging on credibillity and it has <strong>zerooo!</strong> Rocky</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RockyRogue, post: 184130, member: 7185"] Sawdust, I think my "cheerleaders" comment may have been taken out of context. Regardless, the statistical data is what I'd need to see to give any credence to [B]any[/B] claims of success. If APWA's leadership doesn't feel comfortable putting that out, hey, [I]great. [/I]I have zero problem with that. I'm just not going to give credence to [B][I][U]any[/U][/I][/B] claims til I start seeing some combination of these: 1). Mass media coverage (CNN, Fox, etc, etc el-al) 2). Statistical information (and statistics in this form isn't hard to understand, so I wanna see 'em). I don't feel this is unreasonable. I need solid information (statistical data) and/or mass media reporting on the effort (proof the effort isn't a one barn effort). Its a mistake to collect cards only in one part of the country. I haven't heard one word in Denver, let alone from anyone in the Denver area. The fellow running Brown is the only way I've heard anything about APWA save for this site. And APWA's site isn't exactly a great provider of information. They may give credit somehow but they're not enough. Some time? Sir, this may take [B]years[/B] and that's just in [I]one[/I] part of the country. An NLRB vote may be ten years away! Burying information is the [I]last[/I] thing APWA's leadership wants to do. Here we go again with [B][I][U]credibility[/U][/I][/B]!!! APWA's fight is hinging on credibillity and it has [B]zerooo![/B] Rocky [/QUOTE]
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