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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4537028" data-attributes="member: 63706">You have to ask yourself, are we a melting pot, or a patchwork quilt? I think ideas like &quot;black community&quot; reveal the heart of the issue. We see government enforced segregation as evil, but when it is self-imposed by a minority group, it is encouraged? I don&#039;t know, just spit-ballin&#039;. BLM seemingly wants police budgets slashed and that money invested in black communities. The leaders of BLM disavow and insult prior generation civil-rights activists for trying to bridge the gap between black and white. All I can think of is that sounds like self-imposed segregation. It seems to me that waiting for, and then demanding, government to fix a problem isn&#039;t going to work. You want community policing through cooperative action? Who&#039;s stopping you? Take the lead, get it done. Do positive things, show how well they work, then ask for investment.Better yet, stop seeing the world as black and white, start seeing yourself as.a fellow American. Let&#039;s talk about &quot;our communities&quot; instead of black or white or asian or hispanic communities. Multiculturalism is doomed to failure, life is difficult enough as it is when you are disconnected from the people around you by cultural differences. We need an agreed upon set of values to enable understanding and unity within our nation. That&#039;s not to say that we can&#039;t have our own personal, familial, or community values. But we need an overarching set of values that are understood and accepted by all. Those values need to include acceptance of the fact of differing views (not acceptance of the views themselves), recognition of the rights of all individuals, equal protection under the law (really equal, not &quot;protected class&quot; equal), and a deeply held conviction that your rights end where my nose begins. Anything short of those basic fundamentals is aimed at dividing, not uniting. Just my two cents.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4537028, member: 63706"] You have to ask yourself, are we a melting pot, or a patchwork quilt? I think ideas like "black community" reveal the heart of the issue. We see government enforced segregation as evil, but when it is self-imposed by a minority group, it is encouraged? I don't know, just spit-ballin'. BLM seemingly wants police budgets slashed and that money invested in black communities. The leaders of BLM disavow and insult prior generation civil-rights activists for trying to bridge the gap between black and white. All I can think of is that sounds like self-imposed segregation. It seems to me that waiting for, and then demanding, government to fix a problem isn't going to work. You want community policing through cooperative action? Who's stopping you? Take the lead, get it done. Do positive things, show how well they work, then ask for investment. Better yet, stop seeing the world as black and white, start seeing yourself as.a fellow American. Let's talk about "our communities" instead of black or white or asian or hispanic communities. Multiculturalism is doomed to failure, life is difficult enough as it is when you are disconnected from the people around you by cultural differences. We need an agreed upon set of values to enable understanding and unity within our nation. That's not to say that we can't have our own personal, familial, or community values. But we need an overarching set of values that are understood and accepted by all. Those values need to include acceptance of [I]the fact[/I] of differing views (not acceptance of the views themselves), recognition of the rights of all individuals, equal protection under the law (really equal, not "protected class" equal), and a deeply held conviction that your rights end where my nose begins. Anything short of those basic fundamentals is aimed at dividing, not uniting. Just my two cents. [/QUOTE]

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