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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 379413" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>AV,</p><p> </p><p>Here's the bottomline with me, I'm against <span style="font-size: 26px">ALL</span><span style="font-size: 10px"> forms of wealth redistribution. I'm against taking my or anyone's tax dollars under complusion or force and then transferring the fruit of my labor to someone else who did not earn, no matter what the cause or reason.</span></p><p> </p><p>The word socialism is tossed about in our society like a ball on a school playground and we give little thought to one of the core principles of the term. Our only desire is to make sure we hit the other kid while being sucessful with the dodge ourselves so that we don't get hit. So much for the name calling among us!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p> </p><p>No matter where I looked or at what definition, <strong>the one common denominator of socialism was the distribution of wealth by the State for the benefit of the state. </strong>Soialism is also not an exclusive left idealology either as the Mussolini model known as Fascism uses the power of the State in alliance with the private corp. world to build a grander society. Right Socailism if you will. Some call it corporatism whch is valid but if you study feudalism some, it's very much a type of Neo-Feudalism IMO and thus one of the reasons you see me use the term merchantilism. I use this to distinguish us outside a Free Market which we are not. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Going back to that core denominator of socialism is wealth re-distribution, read and think about that statement and you sit there and tell me that taking my tax dollars from me, the fruits of my labor and in fact MY PROPERTY, and giving it to Bass Pro Shops or Debo's Hardware is not different than taking my tax dollars and giving it to Sally or Chuck or whoever in the form of public assistance welfare payments. It's still wealth re-distribution and the ultimate benefactor in this scheme is the State. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>As for filing in New York. It would appear they have found something in various State Constitutions, in this case the 1846' NY Constitution, that gives them some type of legal leverage. Other States may hold similar footing. This is not new ground as Kennesaw Ga. used the Georgia Constitution to cement it's city ordiance on requiring gun ownership.</p><p> </p><p>As for using Cato, I used it for you. You claimed earlier to be some type of libertarian and I thought Cato was probably a fit somewhere in that framework. Some common ground if you will. They do to an extent support the current mideast policy so there's some common ground.</p><p> </p><p>Besides, I didn't think you were ready for Rothbard, Hayek or Russell Kirk!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p> </p><p>Not sure where you are but it's <span style="font-size: 26px">HOT </span><span style="font-size: 10px">here so be cool! </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 379413, member: 2189"] AV, Here's the bottomline with me, I'm against [SIZE=7]ALL[/SIZE][SIZE=2] forms of wealth redistribution. I'm against taking my or anyone's tax dollars under complusion or force and then transferring the fruit of my labor to someone else who did not earn, no matter what the cause or reason.[/SIZE] The word socialism is tossed about in our society like a ball on a school playground and we give little thought to one of the core principles of the term. Our only desire is to make sure we hit the other kid while being sucessful with the dodge ourselves so that we don't get hit. So much for the name calling among us! :wink2: No matter where I looked or at what definition, [B]the one common denominator of socialism was the distribution of wealth by the State for the benefit of the state. [/B]Soialism is also not an exclusive left idealology either as the Mussolini model known as Fascism uses the power of the State in alliance with the private corp. world to build a grander society. Right Socailism if you will. Some call it corporatism whch is valid but if you study feudalism some, it's very much a type of Neo-Feudalism IMO and thus one of the reasons you see me use the term merchantilism. I use this to distinguish us outside a Free Market which we are not. Going back to that core denominator of socialism is wealth re-distribution, read and think about that statement and you sit there and tell me that taking my tax dollars from me, the fruits of my labor and in fact MY PROPERTY, and giving it to Bass Pro Shops or Debo's Hardware is not different than taking my tax dollars and giving it to Sally or Chuck or whoever in the form of public assistance welfare payments. It's still wealth re-distribution and the ultimate benefactor in this scheme is the State. As for filing in New York. It would appear they have found something in various State Constitutions, in this case the 1846' NY Constitution, that gives them some type of legal leverage. Other States may hold similar footing. This is not new ground as Kennesaw Ga. used the Georgia Constitution to cement it's city ordiance on requiring gun ownership. As for using Cato, I used it for you. You claimed earlier to be some type of libertarian and I thought Cato was probably a fit somewhere in that framework. Some common ground if you will. They do to an extent support the current mideast policy so there's some common ground. Besides, I didn't think you were ready for Rothbard, Hayek or Russell Kirk! :happy-very: Not sure where you are but it's [SIZE=7]HOT [/SIZE][SIZE=2]here so be cool! [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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