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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 381314" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>AV,</p><p>I just don't see this in the same way as you do. That's a Shocker! <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p>I also understand the website that posted this info is devoted to Austrian Economics principles espoused by Ludwig Von Mises and anarcho-capitialist/liberterian ideals as proposed by men like Rothbard, Hoppe, etc. that are opposed to large collective gov't of any type and opposed to all forms of compulsary gov't welfare or taxation and that the lawyer involved also believes along these lines of principle. That said:</p><p> </p><p>Bottom line, this country went 150 plus years without direct taxation ie income tax and nearly if not a bit more without either public welfare or what is known as corporate welfare. Let me also say that the corp. welfare has been around much longer but it wasn't as overt as it has become over the last 50 years as public welfare exploded on the scene. You might also consider that point and connection sometime. </p><p> </p><p>I've come to believe you are as big a socialist (although from a right perspective) as some of you claim towards the left and therefore you violate the core principle of laissez-faire, free market economics with your own form of gov't market intervention, a type of Mussolini/Gentile hybrid if you will. At the same time, just as the left would loadshift the tax burden onto a segment of society in order to drive an economic outcome in total violation of Laissez-faire principles, you do just the same in your own way. It's almost a Hegelian Dilectic reaction to the action of the left socialist. An antithesis which brings about the Hegelian synthesis which is greater gov't. Either way, the free individual loses.</p><p> </p><p>Sorry, but in my book, that is the mark of a socialist. Instead of fighting the system to eliminate the whole filthy process, you've joined the team which either way, the Super State wins at the end of the day.</p><p> </p><p>I'm sure no matter what I say or how much I present, you will not depart from your God-State so I'll just leave it at that and I guess we'll just agree to disagree on this one.</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p> </p><p>Gee, what a Shocker!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/surprised.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":surprised:" title="Surprised :surprised:" data-shortname=":surprised:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 381314, member: 2189"] AV, I just don't see this in the same way as you do. That's a Shocker! :happy-very: I also understand the website that posted this info is devoted to Austrian Economics principles espoused by Ludwig Von Mises and anarcho-capitialist/liberterian ideals as proposed by men like Rothbard, Hoppe, etc. that are opposed to large collective gov't of any type and opposed to all forms of compulsary gov't welfare or taxation and that the lawyer involved also believes along these lines of principle. That said: Bottom line, this country went 150 plus years without direct taxation ie income tax and nearly if not a bit more without either public welfare or what is known as corporate welfare. Let me also say that the corp. welfare has been around much longer but it wasn't as overt as it has become over the last 50 years as public welfare exploded on the scene. You might also consider that point and connection sometime. I've come to believe you are as big a socialist (although from a right perspective) as some of you claim towards the left and therefore you violate the core principle of laissez-faire, free market economics with your own form of gov't market intervention, a type of Mussolini/Gentile hybrid if you will. At the same time, just as the left would loadshift the tax burden onto a segment of society in order to drive an economic outcome in total violation of Laissez-faire principles, you do just the same in your own way. It's almost a Hegelian Dilectic reaction to the action of the left socialist. An antithesis which brings about the Hegelian synthesis which is greater gov't. Either way, the free individual loses. Sorry, but in my book, that is the mark of a socialist. Instead of fighting the system to eliminate the whole filthy process, you've joined the team which either way, the Super State wins at the end of the day. I'm sure no matter what I say or how much I present, you will not depart from your God-State so I'll just leave it at that and I guess we'll just agree to disagree on this one. :wink2: Gee, what a Shocker! :surprised: [/QUOTE]
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