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<blockquote data-quote="Iconoclast" data-source="post: 179861" data-attributes="member: 8906"><p><span style="color: #0000ff">The grievance process was put into place by the teamsters and by UPS to allow you the means to address any issues where you feel you were not treated fairly or where UPS did not follow the contract. You could clearly argue that UPS provided you with the means to hold them accountable. In this case my point has been that many drivers never had lunch issues or if they did they did not use the grievance process first. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black">How do you know that? You are continually hingeing an argument on this point. You can probably safely assume that many drivers had lunch issues or the lawsuit would not hold up-you can also surmise that UPS would not settle a case where they could prove that this was not a widespread issue.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: black">The other question still stands - How on god's green earth you can make a definitive statement about how many used the grievance process, and what resolution they received, is beyond my pale.</span></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Thats one part of this issue the other is 4 or 5 drivers who apparently had issues with the lunch issue filed a class action and were allowed to draw in the 4 or 5 thousand drivers who work in the state of california. Those additional drivers never actually had to enroll and they never had to prove they too were harmed by UPS. </span></p><p> <span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: black">Yes. Again, one million times again-when you have an issue that is this widespread the court doesn't want to hear every case so they allow a CLASS ACTION so a problem as monumentally broad as this lunch issue will penalize a company like UPS. If it were as simple as just proving that most drivers did not have their lunch tampered with - THAT IS WHAT UPS WOULD DO!! THEY WOULD PROVE THAT AND NOT SETTLE. that is the entire reason they pay legal retainers. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: black">As far as enrolling, why?? beneficiaries can receive awards without having to substantiate each individual infraction. It seems unfair to UPS until you realize how many millions of dollars they have cost drivers over the years by stealing time from them-how do we know that-</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"></span><span style="color: black">ONE SIMPLE FACT TIE - UPS SETTLES, PERIOD. </span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iconoclast, post: 179861, member: 8906"] [COLOR=#0000ff]The grievance process was put into place by the teamsters and by UPS to allow you the means to address any issues where you feel you were not treated fairly or where UPS did not follow the contract. You could clearly argue that UPS provided you with the means to hold them accountable. In this case my point has been that many drivers never had lunch issues or if they did they did not use the grievance process first. [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]How do you know that? You are continually hingeing an argument on this point. You can probably safely assume that many drivers had lunch issues or the lawsuit would not hold up-you can also surmise that UPS would not settle a case where they could prove that this was not a widespread issue.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][COLOR=black]The other question still stands - How on god's green earth you can make a definitive statement about how many used the grievance process, and what resolution they received, is beyond my pale.[/COLOR] Thats one part of this issue the other is 4 or 5 drivers who apparently had issues with the lunch issue filed a class action and were allowed to draw in the 4 or 5 thousand drivers who work in the state of california. Those additional drivers never actually had to enroll and they never had to prove they too were harmed by UPS. [COLOR=black]Yes. Again, one million times again-when you have an issue that is this widespread the court doesn't want to hear every case so they allow a CLASS ACTION so a problem as monumentally broad as this lunch issue will penalize a company like UPS. If it were as simple as just proving that most drivers did not have their lunch tampered with - THAT IS WHAT UPS WOULD DO!! THEY WOULD PROVE THAT AND NOT SETTLE. that is the entire reason they pay legal retainers. [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]As far as enrolling, why?? beneficiaries can receive awards without having to substantiate each individual infraction. It seems unfair to UPS until you realize how many millions of dollars they have cost drivers over the years by stealing time from them-how do we know that-[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=black]ONE SIMPLE FACT TIE - UPS SETTLES, PERIOD. [/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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