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<blockquote data-quote="Iconoclast" data-source="post: 182274" data-attributes="member: 8906"><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Tieguy-You're right you don't have a horse in this race. I'm really trying to stay away from dialogue of this type because it really destroys the honest dialogue we have going. Its tough to get this kind of honesty going. The good thing is we are slowly migrating to a mutual understanding that very few if any drivers were hurt by the lunch issue but that all of them apprarently felt they deserved the money for whatever reason. May I suggest you skp this thread so your blood pressure is not adversly affected? </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">Who is migrating to a position that very few drivers were hurt in this? Do you realize how insulting that is to your fellow employees?</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">This is not just limited to California or lunch breaks, there is a huge issue with coercion and management abuses in our company. Pick another initative, let's jump over to our side of the fence -management- and look at the United Way issue, How about the pressue there to contribute so UPS can make its annual number? </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">Have you ever tried to tell you management team- No thanks, I already have a favorite charity? I had to get HR involved when I first started beause I politely refused to contribute. My job was threatened because I would not contribute to the United Way. When HR stepped in my superiors were incredulous, not because I contacted HR, but because this is the way they had always managed-they literally didn't know that they were not allowed to threaten me to contribute to a charity.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">Look at this forum, look at these threads, this is not Disneyland-morale at UPS is always an issue, you said yourself that you are argueing the process of class action, not whether or not abuses took place that caused class action-Now, you are shifting to a "mutual understanding that very few drivers, if any were hurt in by the lunch issue?" </span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">Man, what a stretch. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">You are talking about class action for this very same problem in 3-4 different states. This has affected millions of dollars of employees compensation.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">The question still stands, as a management person who abuses an employees time, and I think we are all at a mutual understanding that this happens constantly, with respect to meal breaks-</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black">How does one reconcile taking bonuses and the MIP which are merit based, when that management person really deserves to be fired?</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iconoclast, post: 182274, member: 8906"] [COLOR=#0000ff]Tieguy-You're right you don't have a horse in this race. I'm really trying to stay away from dialogue of this type because it really destroys the honest dialogue we have going. Its tough to get this kind of honesty going. The good thing is we are slowly migrating to a mutual understanding that very few if any drivers were hurt by the lunch issue but that all of them apprarently felt they deserved the money for whatever reason. May I suggest you skp this thread so your blood pressure is not adversly affected? [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Who is migrating to a position that very few drivers were hurt in this? Do you realize how insulting that is to your fellow employees?[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]This is not just limited to California or lunch breaks, there is a huge issue with coercion and management abuses in our company. Pick another initative, let's jump over to our side of the fence -management- and look at the United Way issue, How about the pressue there to contribute so UPS can make its annual number? [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Have you ever tried to tell you management team- No thanks, I already have a favorite charity? I had to get HR involved when I first started beause I politely refused to contribute. My job was threatened because I would not contribute to the United Way. When HR stepped in my superiors were incredulous, not because I contacted HR, but because this is the way they had always managed-they literally didn't know that they were not allowed to threaten me to contribute to a charity.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Look at this forum, look at these threads, this is not Disneyland-morale at UPS is always an issue, you said yourself that you are argueing the process of class action, not whether or not abuses took place that caused class action-Now, you are shifting to a "mutual understanding that very few drivers, if any were hurt in by the lunch issue?" [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Man, what a stretch. [/COLOR] [COLOR=black]You are talking about class action for this very same problem in 3-4 different states. This has affected millions of dollars of employees compensation.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]The question still stands, as a management person who abuses an employees time, and I think we are all at a mutual understanding that this happens constantly, with respect to meal breaks-[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]How does one reconcile taking bonuses and the MIP which are merit based, when that management person really deserves to be fired?[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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