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<blockquote data-quote="Iconoclast" data-source="post: 183108" data-attributes="member: 8906">Cole,&nbsp;You are correct in every aspect, but you know that there are many, many people who do not stand up for themselves, that is why there are laws to protect them. One of the reasons UPS finds itself in the position of having such poor morale is that employees, especially management, are afraid to lose their jobs, so they cut corners and bend against their principles to superiors who constantly abuse the rules to protect themselves.&nbsp;I applaud you for having the temerity to stand up for what is right, but you are rare - as long as there are weak and strong in this world, the weak will always be pushed to the wall.&nbsp;Look at the excellent example you provided earlier - &nbsp;Cole - I do remember reading the Washington State Law suit about the company harrassing people not to take their lunches etc..., and there was one statement that imho was the $12,000,000.00 settlement statement, and it was a driver saying he had skipped his lunch for quite a while, then finally he decided he had enough and started taking it, so his sup started threatening him, and said, &quot;we won&#039;t need you much longer, but they&#039;ll be here soon to crush your head&quot;. &nbsp;We would all like to believe that this is an isolated incident and that coercion like this doesn&#039;t go on everyday, but we know different. It may be more subtle than this extreme, but it still occurs. I work with several long time UPS peoeple right now who still will not even consider selling their stock without the approval of senior managers. It is their stock! It is the long standing subtle abuse of people that creates apathy and cripples an organization.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Iconoclast, post: 183108, member: 8906"] Cole, You are correct in every aspect, but you know that there are many, many people who do not stand up for themselves, that is why there are laws to protect them. One of the reasons UPS finds itself in the position of having such poor morale is that employees, especially management, are afraid to lose their jobs, so they cut corners and bend against their principles to superiors who constantly abuse the rules to protect themselves. I applaud you for having the temerity to stand up for what is right, but you are rare - as long as there are weak and strong in this world, the weak will always be pushed to the wall. Look at the excellent example you provided earlier - Cole - I do remember reading the Washington State Law suit about the company harrassing people not to take their lunches etc..., and there was one statement that imho was the $12,000,000.00 settlement statement, and it was a driver saying he had skipped his lunch for quite a while, then finally he decided he had enough and started taking it, so his sup started threatening him, and said, [I][B]"we won't need you much longer, but they'll be here soon to crush your head". [/B][/I] We would all like to believe that this is an isolated incident and that coercion like this doesn't go on everyday, but we know different. It may be more subtle than this extreme, but it still occurs. I work with several long time UPS peoeple right now who still will not even consider selling their stock without the approval of senior managers. It is their stock! It is the long standing subtle abuse of people that creates apathy and cripples an organization. [/QUOTE]

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