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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 4539282" data-attributes="member: 56035">just watched planet of hte humans and i was wrong.  i knew after watching that famous vegan movie that major environmental groups were on the take from capitalists (not to mention all of the american so called healthy diet groups being on the take from capitalists).  they are pushing "renewable" sources of energy which might not be so renewable after all.  its our lifestyle that largely has to change or the way we do things.take a guess when we started using oil.  we are living in a bubble.  all civilizations die.  we havent done the work to make this one last.:[ATTACH=full]300752[/ATTACH]</blockquote>