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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4609880" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>You argue from conclusions. I do not "identify with my captors". I've understood the problems with corporatism for a very long time. You conflate the problems with corporatism with capitalism. The problem is you can't fix it from the inside, and you can't make up bull<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> to get people to believe your way worse system will be better this time, if only people didn't behave the way people have, and always will, behave. You can't use propaganda to change behavior because it creates mental illness. People's lives continually get worse under Marxist philosophy, but their beliefs won't allow them to see why. And trust me, I understand that corporatists use propaganda too, with the same outcomes. </p><p></p><p>I have been toying with the idea that corporatism is really just what happens when you privatized socialism (I know, wrap your mind around that one). I'm still developing the idea, so I don't want to go too far into it. </p><p></p><p>It seems to me that to hope to make the world a better place, you have to actually come up with a better system, implement it independently and prove that it is a better system. That's too much work for your average Marxist, so they just keep spewing the same garbage, just under different guises.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4609880, member: 63706"] You argue from conclusions. I do not "identify with my captors". I've understood the problems with corporatism for a very long time. You conflate the problems with corporatism with capitalism. The problem is you can't fix it from the inside, and you can't make up bull:censored: to get people to believe your way worse system will be better this time, if only people didn't behave the way people have, and always will, behave. You can't use propaganda to change behavior because it creates mental illness. People's lives continually get worse under Marxist philosophy, but their beliefs won't allow them to see why. And trust me, I understand that corporatists use propaganda too, with the same outcomes. I have been toying with the idea that corporatism is really just what happens when you privatized socialism (I know, wrap your mind around that one). I'm still developing the idea, so I don't want to go too far into it. It seems to me that to hope to make the world a better place, you have to actually come up with a better system, implement it independently and prove that it is a better system. That's too much work for your average Marxist, so they just keep spewing the same garbage, just under different guises. [/QUOTE]
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