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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4610232" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>I will try to explain further. The cleaning your room thing is both an analogy and an example, but you're taking it a little too literally, and then extrapolating from it what is not intended. You keep saying that I think you have to be perfect to do anything, or get to some point of personal development before you are allowed to take action. That's not what any of this means.</p><p></p><p>A car is a complex machine of interconnected systems. You don't take your car to a lemonade stand and demand the poor kid fix it for you. He has neither the tools nor understanding. You take it to an experienced mechanic.</p><p></p><p>Society is that much more complex. You don't ask a kid living in the basement how to fix society. The kid, and everyone in the society, makes society better by becoming better themselves. If, as you improve yourself, you find a better way to do something that makes people's lives better, and you put in the time and effort to bring that something to other people, you should get some sort of reward for your efforts, right? By and large, that's capitalism. </p><p></p><p>But, in the process of actually doing something and getting good at it, and not simply consuming information that makes you feel more qualified than the people actually doing things, you will gain understanding and perspective on the problems we face, and be better equipped to handle them. Multiply that by thousands or millions, how can a society not improve?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4610232, member: 63706"] I will try to explain further. The cleaning your room thing is both an analogy and an example, but you're taking it a little too literally, and then extrapolating from it what is not intended. You keep saying that I think you have to be perfect to do anything, or get to some point of personal development before you are allowed to take action. That's not what any of this means. A car is a complex machine of interconnected systems. You don't take your car to a lemonade stand and demand the poor kid fix it for you. He has neither the tools nor understanding. You take it to an experienced mechanic. Society is that much more complex. You don't ask a kid living in the basement how to fix society. The kid, and everyone in the society, makes society better by becoming better themselves. If, as you improve yourself, you find a better way to do something that makes people's lives better, and you put in the time and effort to bring that something to other people, you should get some sort of reward for your efforts, right? By and large, that's capitalism. But, in the process of actually doing something and getting good at it, and not simply consuming information that makes you feel more qualified than the people actually doing things, you will gain understanding and perspective on the problems we face, and be better equipped to handle them. Multiply that by thousands or millions, how can a society not improve? [/QUOTE]
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