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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4611151" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>That's because they know they can't get followers from amongst people who have a certain level of understanding. They target their message to the types of people they do for a reason.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are plenty of young people who have the wisdom to know that protesting is not effective if you don't know what you are doing. It seems clear to me that most of the protesters across the US are being manipulated by wealthy people, generally the types they are ostensibly protesting against, to further their own agendas. With a little thoughtfulness, perspective, and understanding, these protesters would not be so easily manipulated.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>People on this forum give you a hard time partly because they find your views to be naïve, and partly because you embody the cliché of the guy living in his parent's basement. I don't pretend to know all your circumstances, so I bring it up for the metaphorical value, not so much to be derisive.</p><p></p><p>As for what is so different between what we do, I would say the level of challenge and level of consequence for failure, i.e. risk. It's not very challenging to donate money. Studying and learning is a step up, but has very little risk.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't live on my own, I am the sole provider for my family. And It's not just because I work 40 or more hours a week. It's because I have worked upwards of 100 hours a week, working multiple jobs when necessary, to put a roof over the heads and food in the mouths of my wife and kids. I worked a full time job while going to college and serving in the National Guard. I have paid all of my student loans off, am close to paying off my mortgage nearly ten years early, and have no other debt.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If that's true, I might suggest it's because you are overly self-indulgant in your anti-capitalism crusade.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By taking on a burden, say the burden of taking care of yourself and being your own man, you gain an understanding of just how difficult it is and how much effort it takes even just to do such a simple thing. It's not just starting a business, it's any endeavor that has consequences for failure. But I can assure you, building a successful business takes signifincant effort and a high degree of competence.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Having gotten my degree, I can tell you that I did learn a lot, and it was a lot of time and effort. But it <em>is</em> expensive. I only recommend it for someone determined to pursue a career that requires a specific degree. That way you can take a focused approach to your educational path and not waste time and money, and ideally have a career waiting for you that will give you a return on your investment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4611151, member: 63706"] That's because they know they can't get followers from amongst people who have a certain level of understanding. They target their message to the types of people they do for a reason. There are plenty of young people who have the wisdom to know that protesting is not effective if you don't know what you are doing. It seems clear to me that most of the protesters across the US are being manipulated by wealthy people, generally the types they are ostensibly protesting against, to further their own agendas. With a little thoughtfulness, perspective, and understanding, these protesters would not be so easily manipulated. People on this forum give you a hard time partly because they find your views to be naïve, and partly because you embody the cliché of the guy living in his parent's basement. I don't pretend to know all your circumstances, so I bring it up for the metaphorical value, not so much to be derisive. As for what is so different between what we do, I would say the level of challenge and level of consequence for failure, i.e. risk. It's not very challenging to donate money. Studying and learning is a step up, but has very little risk. I don't live on my own, I am the sole provider for my family. And It's not just because I work 40 or more hours a week. It's because I have worked upwards of 100 hours a week, working multiple jobs when necessary, to put a roof over the heads and food in the mouths of my wife and kids. I worked a full time job while going to college and serving in the National Guard. I have paid all of my student loans off, am close to paying off my mortgage nearly ten years early, and have no other debt. If that's true, I might suggest it's because you are overly self-indulgant in your anti-capitalism crusade. By taking on a burden, say the burden of taking care of yourself and being your own man, you gain an understanding of just how difficult it is and how much effort it takes even just to do such a simple thing. It's not just starting a business, it's any endeavor that has consequences for failure. But I can assure you, building a successful business takes signifincant effort and a high degree of competence. Having gotten my degree, I can tell you that I did learn a lot, and it was a lot of time and effort. But it [I]is[/I] expensive. I only recommend it for someone determined to pursue a career that requires a specific degree. That way you can take a focused approach to your educational path and not waste time and money, and ideally have a career waiting for you that will give you a return on your investment. [/QUOTE]
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